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Discussion in 'Air Force & Aviation' started by John Fedup, Jun 16, 2015.
Sorry should have been clear, is Boeing putting forward the Single/Dual or a mix for RCAF program
Ngati I am so disgruntled with the way my government has dealt with defence acquisition. So politicized. Far too often decisions have been made for every reason but military effectiveness.
In the mid 60s we had a chance for Phantoms. Had we of bought these instead of the CF5s and Starfighters we would have had them for 25 years at a minimum but probably longer. That would have allowed new fighters to begin to arrive late 90s early 2000s or right in line to have accepted SH from the start. But we messed up. We are out of sync with the tech changes and whatever we buy is likely short lived as drone technology and 6th generation fighters will be upon us.
If F35 happens as so many have postulated that is fine with me but I still will be surprised if it gets the nod in this country as it may be militarily correct but its not politically correct.
It will likely be a mix, like the current fleet, with the single-seaters being the primary fighter, and the tandem-seaters used for training. All will be block 3 (Boeing offered Super Hornet Block III fighters to Canada – Defence Blog).
I am at the point IDGAS. A Gripen or SH purchase would be short term solutions that will have to be replaced within 20 years. At that point, I probably will be greenhouse gas or even a more babbling fool than I already am.
Same here John. At 52 with a few issues I wont see what comes next after Junior screws this up.
@Novascotiaboy ... good point about Canada getting out of sync in the early sixties by not selecting F-4s. That indeed would have allowed transition to Superhornets instead of the classics we were forced to buy early due to the dogs the RCAF got in the Sixties. Oh well, at least things at the RCN are looking up.
Another opportunity was apparently missed when a deal for Canada to purchase the Iranian F-14 fleet was scuttled due Canadian assistance in helping US embassy staff flee Iran after the revolution.
Wasn’t aware of a possible Iranian Tomcat purchase. The Hornet purchase occurred in this timeframe. Both the F-15 and F-14 were considered at the time but were rejected on cost. While Iranian Tomcats were likely affordable the cost to maintain them would have been a bugger and their expiration would be occurring perhaps even earlier than the classics. Phantoms purchased in the sixties could have resulted SHs in the nineties which would be viable to 2030.
The possibity of the F14 for the RCAF appears to have been real but anyone looking on the internet will also find a huge amount of fantasy associated with the Tomcat in RCAF service. Would have been nice but would have left us with just a 20 year old orphan. Again we would have been in line for a SH buy.
Whats the deal with the delay in accepting the first of the C295 SAR aircraft? Is it really just a manual issue? Did the Spaniards forget to print in french as well?
The C295 procured for Canada is substantially different from the previous generation, and is in fact being marketed by Airbus as the "New C295". (Airbus details enhanced C295 configuration | Jane's 360).
The reason for the delay, as reported in the local Ottawa print press, is mostly due to documentation defects related to the new Collins Pro Line cockpit. It was also reported, however, that DND is still hoping for delivery this year.
Airbus Selects Collins Aerospace's Pro Line Fusion for C295 Flight Deck - Avionics
Well for once the RCAF won't be waiting for funding. Junior can be counted on for immediate funding for this critical mission aircraft.
VIP aircraft used by Prime Minister damaged – out of service until August 2020