Royal Australian Navy Discussions and Updates 2.0

[Reptilia]

Looks like Navantia Australia are displaying an Australianised variant of the MRSS, looks kinda similar to the one they offered the uk. BMTs Ellida Strike probably current frontrunner

‘LPD/Littoral strike ship concept’

RN-UK pic 1 (Navantia design)
RN-UK pic 2 (BMT design)
RAN-AUS pic 3 (Navantia design) - on display

 

[CrustyRusty]

@StevoJH is correct. Cape class ADV Cape Inscription has pennant number 320.

Thank you for your reply. I should have looked at the original CCPB pennant numbers.
I was looking at the Evolved CCPB pennant numbers which run 312, 313, 314, 315, 316, 317, 318 and 319, and guessed that the 9th Cape Spencer would be 320. but it gets the pennant #225.
Given that Inscription has pennant #320, my query still stands why would the Navy not give Cape Spencer 321 instead of 225, which is out of sequence?

 

[Reptilia]

Indo Pacific 2025: Japan builds Australia's Mogami frigates for Naval Strike Missile

Australia's fleet of Improved Mogami-class frigates are being built to accommodate the Naval Strike Missile (NSM), a representative from Mitsubishi Heavy Industries...

www.janes.com

‘Australia's fleet of Improved Mogami-class frigates are being built to accommodate the Naval Strike Missile (NSM), a representative from Mitsubishi Heavy Industries (MHI) has confirmed.

Speaking to Janes at the Indo Pacific International Maritime Exposition 2025 in Sydney, the representative said that this will be the major difference between the Improved Mogami-class frigates that are being built for the Royal Australian Navy (RAN) and the ones that are being built for the Japan Maritime Self-Defense Force (JMSDF).

Instead of the NSM, the Improved Mogami-class frigates being built for Japan will be equipped with the improved Type 12 missile.’

 

[Volkodav]

Say what you want about their capability, they’re never going to win a beauty contest…

You seen USS Pinckney in her new muffin top configuration?

There's probably a lot more than just radars in that mast. I wonder if there are any AUKUS goodies being rolled out to the surface fleet?

 

[Reptilia]

Type 83 with Ceafar…
Ugggglyyy! The Pineapple King.

 

[iambuzzard]

Type 83 with Ceafar…
Ugggglyyy! The Pineapple King.

AAARRRGGGHHH!

 

[spoz]

Looks like Navantia Australia are displaying an Australianised variant of the MRSS, looks kinda similar to the one they offered the uk. BMTs Ellida Strike probably current frontrunner

‘LPD/Littoral strike ship concept’

RN-UK pic 1 (Navantia design)
RN-UK pic 2 (BMT design)
RAN-AUS pic 3 (Navantia design) - on display

The hull forms are significantly different - ignore the topsides - although they, too have not so minor differences.

 

[SammyC]

Indo Pacific 2025: Japan builds Australia's Mogami frigates for Naval Strike Missile

Australia's fleet of Improved Mogami-class frigates are being built to accommodate the Naval Strike Missile (NSM), a representative from Mitsubishi Heavy Industries...

www.janes.com

‘Australia's fleet of Improved Mogami-class frigates are being built to accommodate the Naval Strike Missile (NSM), a representative from Mitsubishi Heavy Industries (MHI) has confirmed.

Speaking to Janes at the Indo Pacific International Maritime Exposition 2025 in Sydney, the representative said that this will be the major difference between the Improved Mogami-class frigates that are being built for the Royal Australian Navy (RAN) and the ones that are being built for the Japan Maritime Self-Defense Force (JMSDF).

Instead of the NSM, the Improved Mogami-class frigates being built for Japan will be equipped with the improved Type 12 missile.’

No surprise there, good outcome.

 

[SammyC]

Sounds good in theory, Civmec could potentially start building steel units end 2026 after contract signing and accelerate the Australian build of upgraded Mogami timeline 3-4 years. Risky without the first ship in service but possible.

This one is going to be very interesting to see how it gets unpicked.

The only way that Austal does not get the GPF program lead is if it totally stuffs up the LCH and LCM programs. Despite the current design issues with Birdon (and I agree with Reptilia above, this is on Birdon) there are no signs of that yet. The Government have been really direct on this. There are no chances of a HMI/Civmec tie up.

MHI are however not going to accept a commercial arrangement with Austal or the Government if Hanwa have access to their commercially sensitive information including ship designs. No company would ever do this with a direct competitor.

I don't think Hanwa are interested in the Austal Australian assets at all. They still want the US assets to merge them with their Philly shipyard. Note Austal USA already has certification to participate in the SSN program (which is not easy to obtain) and has a large Coastguard/Defence order book that could easily support two yards.

I would not be surprised if this gets resolved by allowing Hanwa to increase their stake above 20%, and then enabling the Government to purchase the Australian assets of Austal (of which they recently obtained a right to do so).

This gets combined with either buying or leasing the Civmec facility by the Government, and then subcontracting a labour workforce from Civmec for construction.

My understanding is that we will find out early next year.

 

[Reptilia]

AUKUS builds steam, but requires full Australian commitment - Naval News

Australia is continuing to drive forward its ambition for nuclear-powered submarines (SSN). The first day of Indo-Pacific 2025, held in Sydney from 4-6 November, was marked by a flurry of announcements relating to submarines. Australia is continuing to drive forward its ambition for...

www.navalnews.com

SSN AUKUS model at the Rolls Royce stand.

Pic - Naval News
Now that’s good lookin…

 

[Flexson]

The eCape numbers do not run in age of the hull 312, 313, 314, 315, 316, 317, 318, 319, 225 and 226. They run 314, 315, 316, 317, 318, 319, 312, 313, 225 and 226. Go figure!?