Royal Australian Navy Discussions and Updates 2.0

AndyinOz

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Release from the Ministers Office https://www.minister.defence.gov.au/media-releases/2025-08-04/adf-recruitment-surge-biggest-15-years points to note for me are the apparent drop in separations to 7.9%, which is below the 10year average as well as the 75,000 application which apparently are the highest in 5years as well as the 7,059 permanent full-time personnel increase being the highest intake since the 2009-10 period. From some of the commentary I have seen online so far the ADF is saying welcome to the TikTok generation with that platform apparently being leveraged with adverts and such.
 

hauritz

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I have my doubts about the U.S LOSVs too.
6 GPF built overseas + 6-8 built here sounds reasonable if they cancel the LOSV build of 6.

Or we could see Australia join the LUSV program the Japanese have going on.


Naval News (2m30 in)

The DSR took a simplistic view of this capability. They seemed to be thinking of just an optionally crewed missile barge instead of the family of systems that would actually be required.

I don’t think Australia will be abandoning the idea of autonomous vessels. Far from it in fact. What they will probably have to consider is a larger mix of vessels.

In Australia’s case it could turn into a project much larger and more complex than what was alluded to in the DSR.

 

InterestedParty

Active Member
But the Evolved Mogami is already in production, the A210 is not.
I have no experience in a military context but when I was an engineer with BHP we were trying to fight off a German competitor offering cheaper prices for major mill components.
Once we were shutdown the prices were jacked up. I would trust the Japanese far more readily
 

Reptilia

Well-Known Member
The LCM concept always struck me as not one thing or the other.
Too small to carry a meaningful payload.
Load weight or lane meters.
Too big for a true riverine asset
Too short ranged for our needs
Coastal or OS

The LCM with a slight increase in size up to the French offering ticks the box

Cheers S
Yup, by the numbers (if true)

55mx10.5m vs 70mx10.6m
2,800nm vs 2150nm
+14knts vs 16knts top speed
90-100 ton max load vs 200 ton max load
26 crew vs 18 crew
72 troops vs 260 troops
6 20ft TEU containers vs 12
namjet waterjet vs prop driven

1 M1A2 vs 2
2 Redback or Boxer vs 4
4 HIMARS or Bushmaster vs 8+
not only that but the French vessel could potentially carry the typhon missile system?


Where the French craft may fail…

‘They’re not specifying the size of the vessel although maximum draft is set at 1.6 metres and there’s an air draft limitation of six metres so the vessel can pass under a traffic bridge to reach the Ross Island barracks in Townsville.”

Maybe move the barracks forward of the bridge…

 
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seaspear

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Slightly off topic but originally the Hobart class were designed to incorporate various functions that would enable it to operate in cold weather in Australia's southern regions
Should such ability be considered for new frigates?
 
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