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Sandhi Yudha

Sandhi Yudha

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An ADIRU/ADIRS operates and is in use during the whole flight, even on the ground. But it is for me also remarkable that the FMC/Digital Flight Control Systems only use (or prioritize) these two gyroscopes above the other two and normally the DFCS also use inputs from other systems like the pitot tube, static pressure ports and AoA.


|"The country's air force had grounded its entire F-16 fleet in the wake of the crash, which occurred on May 8th, suspending all training. Having inspected its fleet, including each gyroscope one by one, the RSAF resumed F-16 flights on May 21st.

the crash - the first involving an RSAF F-16 in over 20 years - "|

Taking such problems serious and having a good maintenance system results in very low rate of accidents and crashes of the years. I mean, they have around 60 F-16s in their fleet, if i am not wrong.
 
Sandhi Yudha

Sandhi Yudha

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Ananda

Ananda

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Singapore confirms the purchase of eight more F-35A fighter jets to complement earlier F-35B acquisition

Singapore confirms the purchase of eight more F-35A fighter jets to complement earlier F-35B acquisition
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12 F35B + 8 F35A as to begin gradual replacement for 60 F-16. Will this in the end become 12 F-35B + 48 F35A ? I always see F35A will become more appropriate F16 replacement. Will F35B in the end operate from plan Singapore LHD that ST already shown the design sometime ago ?

Will be interesting to see how this going to develop. Will Singapore continue maintain their 40 F15SG and upgrade them to F15EX standard? With around 500+ bio GDP, setting the standard cap of 3% means averaging USD 12-15 Bio budget annually at least until end of decade. Will be sufficient in my opinion to add 8 F35A annualy for 5-7 years until end of decade. This will mean the F35A will come gradually in next decade replacing F16.
 
downunderblue

downunderblue

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Is there any feedback from in service RSAF use of the F-35B's? I assume they allow the RSAF to sustainably and effectively operate off base to counter continuity issues surrounding the potential cratering of airfields in any time of conflict? Surely a F-35B is more 'survivable' in most scenarios than a F-35A and does this and the resilience it offers justify the extra cost?

I can see why this would be attractive to SG as well as many other countries but the uptake of the F-35B in this role has been quite limited.

In any potential future Indopacom conflict, you'd assume having some F-35B capability in addition to aircraft using existing airbases would add resilience? I know Japan have the aircraft and could also employ them like this but as I noted on an earlier post, most F-35B operators (like Japan) utilise it in a maritime role, rather than as suggested above.

Is there any known feedback or public perception as to how the RSAF use or value their F-35B's? Can they sustain STOL operations off civilian roadways for a prolonged period?

I made the suggestion that the RAAF could acquire a F-35B squadron in this precise role (in addition to maritime projection if required), but apparently interservice rivaly has almost ruled that idea out before it was evaluated (or so I suspect). You'd think defense planners would like the idea especially if the Singaporean experience is a positive one.
 
Ananda

Ananda

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Singapore Selects P-8 Poseidon As Next Maritime Patrol Aircraft - Naval News

Singapore’s defense ministry announced September 10 that it had selected Boeing’s P-8 Poseidon as the Republic of Singapore Air Force’s next maritime patrol aircraft.
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Bit late, but Singapore decided to get 4 P-8 as replacement for their Fokker 50 MPA. Previous Airbus offer with C295 MPA seems not able to sway Singapore from P-8. I wonder if Airbus already ready with A-321 MPA that French shown interest with.
 
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SolarisKenzo

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Ananda said:
www.navalnews.com

Singapore Selects P-8 Poseidon As Next Maritime Patrol Aircraft - Naval News

Singapore’s defense ministry announced September 10 that it had selected Boeing’s P-8 Poseidon as the Republic of Singapore Air Force’s next maritime patrol aircraft.
www.navalnews.com www.navalnews.com

Bit late, but Singapore decided to get 4 P-8 as replacement for their Fokker 50 MPA. Previous Airbus offer with C295 MPA seems not able to sway Singapore from P-8. I wonder if Airbus already ready with A-321 MPA that French shown interest with.
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A-321MPA not even close to being "ready", they are certainly working on it and we can expect some test-bed aircraft somewhat soon, but the P-8 is a ready plane.
We are talking years before the A-321MPA is "ready".
 
Sandhi Yudha

Sandhi Yudha

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SolarisKenzo said:
A-321MPA not even close to being "ready", they are certainly working on it and we can expect some test-bed aircraft somewhat soon, but the P-8 is a ready plane.
We are talking years before the A-321MPA is "ready".
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Airbus is way too late with the development of AEW and MPA versions of their A320/A330 families. Two decades ago it was already clear that the Nimrod, P-3 Orion and Atlantique becoming old, worn out and obsolete.
 
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SolarisKenzo

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Sandhi Yudha said:
Airbus is way too late with the development of AEW and MPA versions of their A320/A330 families. Two decades ago it was already clear that the Nimrod, P-3 Orion and Atlantique becoming old, worn out and obsolete.
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You are right but 20 years ago the world was a very different place.
Defense companies really didn't see a market for strategic enablers (bombers, tankers, mpa, AWACS,...) outside the US.
Airbus simply had no interest in working on such platform.
Now it's different, but you need time.
The Atlantique II is still a usable plane, we'll see what airbus will do.

I have a feeling that Italy might jump on the a321 too...
 
Sandhi Yudha

Sandhi Yudha

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Well at least Italy has developed several MPA versions of the ATR72, not very suitable for long range patrols, but absolutely usable for patrols in territorial waters and EEZ, and there are already some export customers for these variants.

There is also an MPA variant of the Piaggio P180, it has also a longer range than the ATR72, but it is smaller in size. Is the development/production of it ended?
 
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SolarisKenzo

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Sandhi Yudha said:
Well at least Italy has developed several MPA versions of the ATR72, not very suitable for long range patrols, but absolutely usable for patrols in territorial waters and EEZ, and there are already some export customers for these variants.

There is also an MPA variant of the Piaggio P180, it has also a longer range than the ATR72, but it is smaller in size. Is the development/production of it ended?
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Neither of those have any anti-sub capabilities, the only one armed is the Turkish version but they paid for the development...
 
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