Al-Khalid`s technology comes from China and Ukrainian with a little influence of French FCS, I do not know what Turkey has brought to the table as far as tank technology advancement.
New Turkish Tank's Design
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I don't know what type systems were used in the Al Khalid but it seems like the ballistic computer and some other electronics plus nicht vision. The FCS could be French because of the lock-on target function. Also the laser rangefinder could be Turkish but I'm not sure. Why I was writing about that Turkey would use the Al Khalid as the base is wrong. I tried to tell that it will be like the Al Khalid. A consortium with Turkish systems on it. The way how the Al Khalid is produced is likely the same way how Turkish company will produce it's own MBT. Not that the Turkish MBT will be a copy of the Al Khalid. There was also talks that the Al Khalid II would be a two country work (Turkey & Pakistan) but I doubt it.
Turkish AFV, like the AAPC or AIFV's used by our army, are well armored. Also applique armor can be fixed to protect them from 30mm AP rounds. But this does not mean that the producing company, FNSS, now has the technology of multi-layered know how. And for sure not the Chobham armor (Burlington) technology. Also, Turkish scientific research will start to develop a multi-layered or composite armor to produce a national tank. Possibly with foreign assistance, it should be the Al Khalid's armor type I think because I read an offer in the news section of the Turkish Defense secretariat's website. There are also talks that Turkey should do research by it's own.
DragonKing786 wrote that Turkish companies were good at producing nice vehicles. Yes, vehicles! But not MBT's. Producing a good MBT takes 3 months long and a AIFV 1 or 3 weeks. Also, the armor of the AIFV looks nice but it is very simple spaced armor. With hardened aluminium. It can sustain hits from the M2HB at point blanc range with it's front armor.
When FNSS and BMC produced it's prototype, the vehicle will be extensively tested. Also the armor. We have the facility to produce, the adoptation know-how and the weapons. Not to forget: the FCS and sensors, radio, laser range finder, thermal sights are all local production too.
I don't know what type systems were used in the Al Khalid but it seems like the ballistic computer and some other electronics plus nicht vision. The FCS could be French because of the lock-on target function. Also the laser rangefinder could be Turkish but I'm not sure. Why I was writing about that Turkey would use the Al Khalid as the base is wrong. I tried to tell that it will be like the Al Khalid. A consortium with Turkish systems on it. The way how the Al Khalid is produced is likely the same way how Turkish company will produce it's own MBT. Not that the Turkish MBT will be a copy of the Al Khalid. There was also talks that the Al Khalid II would be a two country work (Turkey & Pakistan) but I doubt it.
Turkish AFV, like the AAPC or AIFV's used by our army, are well armored. Also applique armor can be fixed to protect them from 30mm AP rounds. But this does not mean that the producing company, FNSS, now has the technology of multi-layered know how. And for sure not the Chobham armor (Burlington) technology. Also, Turkish scientific research will start to develop a multi-layered or composite armor to produce a national tank. Possibly with foreign assistance, it should be the Al Khalid's armor type I think because I read an offer in the news section of the Turkish Defense secretariat's website. There are also talks that Turkey should do research by it's own.
DragonKing786 wrote that Turkish companies were good at producing nice vehicles. Yes, vehicles! But not MBT's. Producing a good MBT takes 3 months long and a AIFV 1 or 3 weeks. Also, the armor of the AIFV looks nice but it is very simple spaced armor. With hardened aluminium. It can sustain hits from the M2HB at point blanc range with it's front armor.
When FNSS and BMC produced it's prototype, the vehicle will be extensively tested. Also the armor. We have the facility to produce, the adoptation know-how and the weapons. Not to forget: the FCS and sensors, radio, laser range finder, thermal sights are all local production too.
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i seen your pic it looks nothing like at all get the prototype pic of the turkish MBT then think if it looks like it or notyeah it really has a merkawa'iísh look.. Well since Turkey is a big country they need a faster Tank, than the merkawa, but it must still carry troops, and the armor must also be good.
Israel doesnt need a fast tank, but a tank wich is durable, and with heavy armor, speed is not the imortant factor here, because the tanks are mainly deployed in urban areas. Well my fav. tank is of course the Merkawa mk4, i love the design, it looks awsome.
I think you mean XK-2, the new MBT of S Korea. It is not decided which country will be the sub contractor and technical assistance provider of Otokar: It may be Germany or Korea. Undersecretariat for Defense Industry and Otokar will together negotiate and decide on the foreign partner. Korea is a (strong) candidate of course. But nothing is certain yet.
WHOOPS! yes you are correct. Thanks for the information - so which LEO2 are they interested in.
Let me copy/paste a part of an interview with Undersecretary of Turkey’s Undersecretariat for Defence Industries (SSM). Murat Bayar;
Otokar will design a prototype with the current know-how and added R&D information. Meanwhile Otokar will receive technical assistance in some parts of this design process from one foreign company. If the outcome prototype satisfies the needs of TLF then mass production will begin.
So it will not be a K-2 or Leo2AX but a Turkish soup with some imported spices & salt This project is one of the most ambitious project Turkey has taken on with MiLGEM, the national corvette program. If both succeed Turkey will probably become more than a medium sized player in international weapons sales market.
One point though, i don't think its so easy to advance rapidly in armor tech.. I am really eager to see the outcome on this area..
If i know correctly , the current project model is
Otokar will design a prototype with the current know-how and added R&D information. Meanwhile Otokar will receive technical assistance in some parts of this design process from one foreign company. If the outcome prototype satisfies the needs of TLF then mass production will begin.
So it will not be a K-2 or Leo2AX but a Turkish soup with some imported spices & salt
This project is one of the most ambitious project Turkey has taken on with MiLGEM, the national corvette program. If both succeed Turkey will probably become more than a medium sized player in international weapons sales market.One point though, i don't think its so easy to advance rapidly in armor tech.. I am really eager to see the outcome on this area..
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my friends. The design on the first pages will not be realized. This was not a serious project design also.
I know the owner of this design and he designed it as hoby, though he is Indisturial design professor at the university, but his hoby is designing tanks.
Please don't take this project serious.
I know the owner of this design and he designed it as hoby, though he is Indisturial design professor at the university, but his hoby is designing tanks.
Please don't take this project serious.
but was this work ever been shown to otokar
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according to the designer, Oğuz Bey, no. I saw this one and some other models personally and talked to him. He said, defence magazine showed his designs, that's all.
New Turkish Tank will be something different and we don't know how it will be. But Absolutely we will see , completely a new design.
Oğuz Bey also told me that his design was a mix of Lecrec and Leo. He said he is inspired by the both.
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my friend, otokar will work with state and aselsan engineers... We'll see very extra tank at the end.
Damn what a talk! Turkey just need the know how to produce a tank. The 120mm sb tank-gun will be manufactured bu MKEK, possibly by tech transfer. This will be done by a sub-contractor and not a main contractor. So it is possibly a joint venture design, the barrel ofcourse.
The Hull is also something what is not done in 3 seconds. Also here is a sub contractor needed. Thats it. The rest of the systems are all manufactured 100% by Turkish firms.
There are 2 firms short listed: KMW and the K2 MBT producer.
End of this year, there is a chance to produce a prototype. Lets wait....
The Hull is also something what is not done in 3 seconds. Also here is a sub contractor needed. Thats it. The rest of the systems are all manufactured 100% by Turkish firms.
There are 2 firms short listed: KMW and the K2 MBT producer.
End of this year, there is a chance to produce a prototype. Lets wait....