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Discussion in 'Air Force & Aviation' started by ngatimozart, Nov 24, 2015.

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  1. At lakes

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    mucked this one up see below
     
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    ngatimozart Super Moderator Staff Member Verified Defense Pro

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    Have they paid for them and are they flying in Indonesian markings? Going by what our two highly respected, and very knowledgeable regular Indonesian posters have been saying, under the current Indonesian Administration nothing is certain with Indonesian defence procurement until it physically turns up. So I'd be somewhat cautious about Indonesian F-16Vs. They may have the desire, but getting that to reality is a totally different story, and they are also looking at the SU-30(?) as well. This really belongs in the Indonesian Air Force thread where there is quite a discussion about it.
     
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    Yes, understood, but it was unfortunate this law wasn’t seriously revisited while the Raptor production line was still active. A Japanese order and perhaps small orders from Australia and Canada might have lowered pricing somewhat.
     
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    The hybrid F22 - F35 that was being discussed on Defence Talk for Japan and possibly Australia, any news on that, or has it gone by the bye?
     
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    IIRC, that hybrid was the technology transfer that LM offered as a basis for a new future jet for Japan and is the basis for a competitive offer against the UK’s Tempest proposal.
     
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    Any talk about such an aircraft in an Australian context is fantasy talk. No place for it on here.
     
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    The U.S. Marine Corps and Sikorsky have resolved the engine integration issues that slowed down the CH-53K King Stallion heavy-lift helicopter program. The announcement made on 17 Dec 2019 that the engine problems have been resolved makes more realistic the government/industry team’s plans to take the helicopter on sea trials in the spring and ultimately conduct a first deployment by 2023 or 2024.

    The helicopters are powered by three new General Electric T-408 engines that allow them to carry 27,000 pounds for 110 nautical miles, or up to 36,000 pounds in shorter flights – allowing the helicopter to lift a pair of Joint Light Tactical Vehicles (JLTVs).
     
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    ngatimozart Super Moderator Staff Member Verified Defense Pro

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    TAI of Turkey has invited Malaysia to participate in its TF-X fighter program. Turkey invites Malaysia to join its TF-X future fighter jet program. It is being proclaiming the TF-X as the first big jet fighter for Muslims, and TAI is also looking at Indonesia, Pakistan, Bangladesh and Kazakhstan as potentional partners and / or customers.
     
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    I would think Pakistan is better off sticking with the Chinese as opposed to an unknown like Turkey. I am sure the Chinese will point that out to Pakistan.
     
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    Yep, but could also be a way for the PRC to get its hands on some western military engine tech, especially if it's an Euro engine; RR, Euro Jet, IAE etc.

    Pakistan has 30 TAI T-129 helicopter gunships on order from Turkey, but they have been held up because the US won't issue the export certificates for the engines because even they they are built under license from Augusta Westland, they are an export version of a US engine.

    So that will play in the mind of Pakistan and others when they do look at signing up to the Turkish program. It'll have to be ITARS free.