JF-17 Thunder / FC-1 / Super-7 Discussions

[Roger Smith]

What is the cost per unit of FC-1 / SUPER-7 / JF-17?

Do anyone know the cost price of JF-17 Fighter plane!!!!!!!!!! :?

My guess would be in the scale of $30 to $35 million per unit.

 

[ullu]

Re: What is the cost per unit of FC-1 / SUPER-7 / JF-17?

:eek :lolol

JF-17 isn't LCA you know thats taking long to make and eventually will cost more too.

The price is between $10 - 20 million.

:roll

ak

 

[Indus]

Re: What is the cost per unit of FC-1 / SUPER-7 / JF-17?

:eek :lolol

JF-17 isn't LCA you know thats taking long to make and eventually will cost more too.

The price is between $10 - 20 million.

:roll

ak

FC-1 (JF-17) is projected to cost around $15 million a piece.

Well LCA has taken longer since it is indigenous.. unlike FC-1 (JF-17) which is developed by CHina..not Pakistan. obviously China is more technically advanced.. although even the FC-1 has some Israeli influence in its development..

 

[Roger Smith]

Re: What is the cost per unit of FC-1 / SUPER-7 / JF-17?

:eek :lolol

JF-17 isn't LCA you know thats taking long to make and eventually will cost more too.

The price is between $10 - 20 million.

:roll

ak

It is not possible, K-8 Jet Trainer is at $20 million per unit and JF-17 is a Fighter Plane, therefore the cost should be at least $30 million a unit.

 

[ullu]

Re: What is the cost per unit of FC-1 / SUPER-7 / JF-17?

K-8 isn't 20 million. I wouldn't just rely on paktribune for the price. :roll

 

[Londo Molari]

Re: What is the cost per unit of FC-1 / SUPER-7 / JF-17?

K-8 is somewhere between 2 and 8 million.... I think... not sure...I have no idea...

But the JF-17 is definitely $15 million

 

[Majin-Vegeta]

yes JF-17 is for bout 15 million dollars, i also saw this on Pakistani news from a site before and Pakistan is helping build the JF-17..so Pakistan has contributed alot.

 

[darklegent]

Re: FC-1 / Super 7 / JF-17

No offence but to what extend did Pakistan help TECHNICALLY in the FC-1. Please update me on the exact technical inputs from Pakistan only.

 

[Red aRRow]

Pakistan provided the basic know how of the F-16 into building the JF-17. The aircraft was jointly developed by the Chengdu Aircraft Industry Group (CAIG) and the Pakistan Aeronautical Complex (PAC).
However the manufacture took place in China because Pakistan does not have an advanced industrial base which could have been utilized in the plane's manufacture.

 

[darklegent]

Re: FC-1 / Super 7 / JF-17

Pakistan provided the basic know how of the F-16 into building the JF-17. The aircraft was jointly developed by the Chengdu Aircraft Industry Group (CAIG) and the Pakistan Aeronautical Complex (PAC).
However the manufacture took place in China because Pakistan does not have an advanced industrial base which could have been utilized in the plane's manufacture.

I was actually interested to know the TECHNICAL inputs.

 

[Bilal_Khan]

Re: FC-1 / Super 7 / JF-17

K-8 costs 4mn dollars a piece, JF-17 costs 15mn dollars a piece. LCA ain't indiginous as claimed, and it's projected unit cost is 22mn dollars a piece.

 

[gf0012-aust]

Re: FC-1 / Super 7 / JF-17

Pakistan provided the basic know how of the F-16 into building the JF-17. The aircraft was jointly developed by the Chengdu Aircraft Industry Group (CAIG) and the Pakistan Aeronautical Complex (PAC).
However the manufacture took place in China because Pakistan does not have an advanced industrial base which could have been utilized in the plane's manufacture.

I was actually interested to know the TECHNICAL inputs.

I suspect you would be hard pressed to find out. When we work with the US on EW projects like NULKA we never advertise what they have bought to the table (which kind of narrows it down to their platform signatures) - but thats another story.

I would assume that all of that info is milspec secrecy bound (a bit like the Yakhont work with Russia I suppose)

 

[Red aRRow]

I agree with gf. Darklegent I cannot provide you with JF-17 blueprints in the same way that you cannot tell me the technical details of the LCA.

 

[Indus]

Re: FC-1 / Super 7 / JF-17

K-8 costs 4mn dollars a piece, JF-17 costs 15mn dollars a piece. LCA ain't indiginous as claimed, and it's projected unit cost is 22mn dollars a piece.

Bilal khan, what makes you think LCA is not indigenous.. It is in every sense of the word indigenous.. WHy dont you tell me what country is helping develop it with India.. and show me where it says that.. stop BSing.

If at all anything, FC-1 (JF-17) is not indigenous. It is joint project b/w
China and Pakistan.. With Pakistan financing 50% of the development cost.. The Chinese military websites nor any other defence consortiums say nothing about what pakistans involvement in the actual development/design of the aircraft.. I would guess China is on a totally different level.

LCA> http://globalsecurity.org/military/world/india/lca.htm
"Hindustan Aeronautics Limited (HAL) is the Principal Partner in the design and fabrication of LCA and its integration leading to flight testing. The LCA has been designed and developed by a consortium of five aircraft research, design, production and product support organizations pooled by the Bangalore-based Aeronautical Development Agency (ADA), under Department of Defense Research and Development Organization (DRDO). Various international aircraft and system manufacturers are also participating in the program with supply of specific equipment, design consultancy and support. For example, GE Aircraft Engines provides the propulsion."

FC-1 (JF-17)> http://www.stormpages.com/jetfight/J-10_J-11_FC-1.htm
"As a fighter designed for export, its main customer is expected to be Pakistan who also shares 50% of the total cost ($150m so far)."
"A full-scale mock-up was soon constructed. 12 FC-1s may have been ordered by PAF and the first aircraft may be delivered in 2005, indicating the urgency of PAF's demand for a modern BVR figher. Some of the FC-1 production may eventually be transferred from CAC to Pakistan Aeronautical Complex (PAC)."


Anyways. I have to say.. ~15mil a piece is a great deal for an aircraft such as the FC-1. Low price, good quality..

 

[Red aRRow]

Indus nobody was saying that JF-17 is indigenous!! :? :?

 

[Indus]

Pakistan provided the basic know how of the F-16 into building the JF-17. The aircraft was jointly developed by the Chengdu Aircraft Industry Group (CAIG) and the Pakistan Aeronautical Complex (PAC).
However the manufacture took place in China because Pakistan does not have an advanced industrial base which could have been utilized in the plane's manufacture.

What part of the knowhow are you reffering to.. desing? etc..
so is the JF-17 based on the f-16.. Would it be considered a modified, better version of the F-16 or is it just an amalgam of different design ideas..

 

[umair]

Well Indus what does the "17" suggest?

 

[Red aRRow]

Problem is that the JF-17 is still not "out" yet. So any comments being made are complete speculation. Pakistan was a part of the concept and designing phase of the aircraft with lots of input from Pakistani engineers who work on the F-16 perhaps. However as I already said the production will currently be taking place in China. Only over time the manufacturing base will be shifted to Pakistan.

 

[Revival_786]

The new pics of the JF-17 are beautiful

 

[Roger Smith]

Re: What is the cost per unit of FC-1 / SUPER-7 / JF-17?

K-8 is somewhere between 2 and 8 million.... I think... not sure...I have no idea...

But the JF-17 is definitely $15 million

The Indian government to award a $1.7 billion contract to BAE Systems for 66 Hawk jet trainer airccraft. It means each Hawk cost $ 25.7 million each.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/india/story/0,12559,1035387,00.html

Therefore, the cost of K-8 jet trainer is $20 million each and JF-17 fighter plane should be at least $ 30 million each.