Keeping in mind that there is no single answer, I think the biggest requirement is the abandonment of Indonesia's neutrality. The US sells F-35 only to their allies, and at this moment Indonesia is not willing to be allied with the US.Well, thank you for that .. I do strive to avoid asking questions which I know to be moot.
What kind of commitnents is the U S. seeking and which Indonesia is unwilling to make?
At this moment even the "lite" version of an alliance is not on the table though. There is this deep distrust over any alliances.Alliance and neutrality can be somewhat “lite” wrt F-35. Finland isn’t a NATO member nor is Switzerland and the latter is a neutral. However Finland is wary of Russia which why they get invited and Switzerland…because they are rich and harmless?
India, hard to say. Certainly their tensions with China warrants a fifth Gen fighter. I would not rule out an F-35 10 years from now. Brazil, why, they have no threat that warrants a fifth Gen at the moment. Their commitment to submarines seems more appropriate for their security.
Yes, The IP rights for CN 235 owned 50:50 by IPTN and CASA (as now part of Airbus). They can work their own version of CN 235. That's why Airbus CN 235 call 100/200/300 and IPTN/DI ones call 110/220/330.From which i understand IPTN and CASA have both full rights/ownership of the IP of the CN235. Thats why after the CN235-200/220 series both companies could independently continue with developing the -300/330, C295 and N245. Please correct me if i am wrong.
Well he claim that it's going to be sign soon, lets see about that. Other Rumours that I heard also talk that. However the rumours that I heard talking on changing option from 2+2 MRTT to 2 MRTT + 2 A400M. That more make sense to me, then just A400M and A330 VIP.There are no reliable sources reporting about a serious development in the plan to buy the A400M. Also ordering 2-4 A330 MRTT refueling/transport aircrafts (new or ex-Garuda) should be more cost effective than a combination of 1 A330 MRTT + 2 A400M.
Maybe the Oracle is confused with the order of two A400Ms by Kazakhstan.
CN-235 is not popular this time around, related to Airbus more inclined to market C-295 instead. As I posted, I do have big doubt that Airbus wants to move their own entire CN-235 line to Bandung only for 2 A400M. Unless only means they close their CN-235 assembly line, and give all rights to market CN-235 to DI as they're doing with C-212. However of moving parts manufacturing ? Again if they closed all their own CN-235 parts manufacturing, then how they're going to support C-295 parts manufacturing as those two aircraft shares significant parts together ?But if it's true, that they're doing this for the sake of having the CN-235 line move entirely to Bandung, is it worth it?
Your idol isn't agree with you. He even wrote an opinion article on the website of CNBC Indonesia.... :-DLike I wrote in Indonesian Navy thread, closer to date line on making decisions, the more 'noises' generated by those Defense 'insiders'/sales agents.
For one thing though, budget for 2 MRTT already pass Bapenas and now in the MoF hand. So seems from 'rumours' that I heard, MinDef want some changes on 'packages' (they can't ask on changes in budget limit, unless they want to reprocessed it again from beginning). Budget process can still allowed some modifications, as long as it's not changing the basic allocation purpose. Thus if the allocation already for Transport-Tankers type of aircrafts, then the modification has still gone to that allocation purpose.
So the tweet that you posted can still make sense, since it doesn't change the basic budget allocation from Bapenas. As the allocation is for MRTT, then modifications on packages must also allocated to Transport-Tankers purpose aircraft. If they change to say VIP aircraft as that Tweeter guy saying, then they have to cancelled existing budget, and begin the process from beginning again. That's why I said that Tweeter guy talking nonsense.
Budget basic allocation purpose is very important. That's why the budget for Su-35 can repurpose to other fighters, but can't to be used on other aircraft then fighters. If they change from say 2 MRTT toward 2 A400M with tankers abilities and 1 MRTT, it's still within the basic purpose. Thus can be modified, as long as not exceeding the budget limit that's been allocated.
Let's say the budget been allocated for two brand new MRTT. Perhaps the budget can still be enough for two A400M and one used A330 refurbished as MRTT. That's just my speculations. However certainly can't be used for different purpose kind of aircraft as budget been allocated for, as that Tweeter guy talking.
It's possible to override the basic purpose of budget allocation. However its need longer process from Bapenas Head (as Country Chief Strategic Officer), Finance Minister (as Country CFO) up to President (as country CEO). It's also can open to audit process. That's why in practice many opted to just cancel the budget and begin new ones. Point is both ways takes time and process consuming.
Well his tweets can be 'comical' sometimes. Just imagine that like Gartfields Sunday morning strip. As with his 'insistance' talk on using that MRTT budget for VIP Aircraft, that's where I know he's talking BS.we shouldn't spend our time on this moron, but in the weekend nothing happen in the world of defence, so i got bored.
I don't know about India, but Brazil sure enough US is willing to supply them if only Brazil government itself request it. Brazil is part of pan American hemisphere and one to invoke Rio treaty, and their military had close relationship with US government for centuries and there is also several important treaty between them. If only otherwise, there is must be rejection from the US when Brazil sought strategic platform like Aircraft Carrier and Nuclear powered Submarine by itself.Keeping in mind that there is no single answer, I think the biggest requirement is the abandonment of Indonesia's neutrality. The US sells F-35 only to their allies, and at this moment Indonesia is not willing to be allied with the US.
As a comparison, is the US willing to sell F-35 to India? Or to Brazil? Why not? What will it take so the US will sell F-35 to those countries? A similar answer (or answers) will apply to Indonesia.
Maybe you should read the following. It gives a more authorative history of the military relationship between the US and Brazil. Centuries it definitely wasn't. I strongly suggest that you do some better research before posting a post like the one you just did.I don't know about India, but Brazil sure enough US is willing to supply them if only Brazil government itself request it. Brazil is part of pan American hemisphere and one to invoke Rio treaty, and their military had close relationship with US government for centuries and there is also several important treaty between them. If only otherwise, there is must be rejection from the US when Brazil sought strategic platform like Aircraft Carrier and Nuclear powered Submarine by itself.
I do suspect the TNI-AU planners watch what the assets that being operated by RSAF and RAAF, how's being operated and then put it as their request too. Except Rafale, most of the other assets on their wish lists is something that already or in process to be acquire by either RAAF or RSAF.This 2021 Joint Declaration on Close Friendship and Cooperation between our two Air Forces, will help ASEAN meet any future threats to the region.