Chinese Air Force (PLA-AF) News and Discussion

Sandhi Yudha

Well-Known Member


Chinese Zhuhai Airshow 2024 is near, and PLA already send their inventory example to the Airshow. Including new comers.


Russia also send their Su-57, and of not mistaken this is the first time they send this to overseas Airshow.

This China Military Enthusiasts channel claim that J-35A in Zhuhai will be target export market. Especially middle east.

The Su-75 was actually created to replace the MiG-29 for the export market, and for some countries which still use the MiG-21.
But the current war and Russia's financial condition will slow down even more the Su-57. So china and India not only beat Russia with sending space probes successfully to the Moon, but soon also with the production of jetfighters.
 

Ananda

The Bunker Group
So china and India not only beat Russia with sending space probes successfully to the Moon, but soon also with the production of jetfighters.
China already beat Russia on production of Fighters and infact any defense items. China already at least 5 times in size on industrial values chains, even in Aerospace. In fact at this rate, even US will have difficulty to keep pace on Chinese on Fightes production soon, let alone Euro Zone. Especially if Boeing military not handle their industrial chains problem soon.

However India still different thing. India own bureaucracy and integrated domestic chains development is always been problematic.
 

Ananda

The Bunker Group
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This J-15 EW variance dubbed PLAF Growler has been rumours for some time. Seems this is one of early clear picture of this variance shown on Chinese Weibos and Online circles. No clear information yet that I know off on the capabilities.
 

GermanHerman

Active Member
PLAAF watchers got quite some treat at the end of '24 as we have gotten images of at least three new systems in the Air:

SAC's 6th gen fighter:

CAC's J-36 6th gen fighter:

Also pictures of the KJ-3000 AEW:

Interesting to see China move ahead with its own ideas of 6th gen after much of the previous generations were heavily influenced by foreign designs.

The discussion around the J-36 seems to be centered around the question if it's 'just' a long range fighter bomber or an entirely new concept build around computing capabilities.
 

John Fedup

The Bunker Group
Three engines, as suspected(?)
Seems so. Fast jet engine technology is still an advantage the West has over China and to a lesser extent Russia. Russia's situation wrt Ukraine may have provided China with some technology info from Russia to narrow the gap. Three engines versus two, a negative IMHO.
 

SABRE

Super Moderator
Verified Defense Pro
Seems so. Fast jet engine technology is still an advantage the West has over China and to a lesser extent Russia. Russia's situation wrt Ukraine may have provided China with some technology info from Russia to narrow the gap. Three engines versus two, a negative IMHO.
I suspect this aircraft is experimental and the actual aircraft - if or when it comes to fruition - might be quite different. If three engines don't work out they might go back to two. Indeed, jet engines is where the US/West and Russia out performs China - probably by a mile. I guess purloining engine designs and metallurgy that goes into it has faced hurdles. Until and unless China closes that gap its 6th gen project might just fall short of what is required. It would be good but not good enough.

Regardless, I would like to see this aircraft perform maneuvers with its three engines.
 

Sandhi Yudha

Well-Known Member

John Fedup

The Bunker Group
When it comes to military jet engines, espionage and reverse engineering can only get your so far. Advanced exotic material fabrication is hands on art-work that has been learned over many decades..
 

SABRE

Super Moderator
Verified Defense Pro
When it comes to military jet engines, espionage and reverse engineering can only get your so far. Advanced exotic material fabrication is hands on art-work that has been learned over many decades..
Jet engines = Chinese aviation's achilles heel. Although they appear to have made improvements, but not enough to be seen as "ground breaking."
 

Ananda

The Bunker Group

It is been couple of days circulating that China sentence to death one of their engineer for espionage case. Now seems more light on what the engineer involve with, and it is FC-31 or prototype of J-35. Well seems now China on the other end of espionage Cases.
 

Ananda

The Bunker Group

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Deino's X account circulate photo (seems taking by chance from someone with his Mobile phone photo) of H6 with ALBM in the belly. Well this shown the ALBM already operational, and eventough it is can be nuclear tip warhead, I suspect this one will be conventional warhead.

China preparation to isolate Taiwan from any maritime supply lines (if the need comes), seems already lined up in operational level.
 

Ananda

The Bunker Group

There are several videos from average ppl enthusiasts and media try to make rendering of J36 and J50. Put this one as seems the guy who made the rendering, shown more realistic assesment base on what images have circulating so far.


Similar video but on X, honestly since this is already circulate on Chinese online platforms before, I don't know whose the original credit belong to.
 
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