China's Underground Great Wall

bpny

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washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/georgetown-students-shed-light-on-chinas-tunnel-system-for-nuclear-weapons When America was talking about the mobile MX missile system China when ahead and built it. Or that's what Phillip A. Karber claims. I have doubts and Karber's ties to Henry Kissinger don't inspire confidence. I can't post the direct link yet but if you Google search you will find it.
 

Lucasnz

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Welcome to Defence Talk. Please ensure you read the rules. The article is interesting but an analysis of the article would be better rather than referring to past associations, which may or may not have any relevance.
 

gazzzwp

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I must confess I find this information extremely concerning. Particularly in view of nuclear treaties and disarmament between Russia and the US that have taken place over the last few decades.

It neutralizes such treaties completely. How concerned could Washington be about this? Or indeed Japan, South Korea and all of the other nations in that region?

The world really is becoming a more deadlier place :mad:
 

legoboy

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I must confess I find this information extremely concerning. Particularly in view of nuclear treaties and disarmament between Russia and the US that have taken place over the last few decades.

It neutralizes such treaties completely. How concerned could Washington be about this? Or indeed Japan, South Korea and all of the other nations in that region?

The world really is becoming a more deadlier place :mad:
Russia and the US still have thousands and thousands more nuclear weapons than China's estimated stockpile.

Sounds like you've been living under a rock and just got out yesterday.
 

Knjaz

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I must confess I find this information extremely concerning. Particularly in view of nuclear treaties and disarmament between Russia and the US that have taken place over the last few decades.

It neutralizes such treaties completely. How concerned could Washington be about this? Or indeed Japan, South Korea and all of the other nations in that region?

The world really is becoming a more deadlier place :mad:
I'd be more concerned about if Washington actually listened to such "studies".

3000 miles of "secret" underground tunnels? Do they have any idea what are they talking about? How hard is it to hide such a buildup? USA managed to uncover Yamantau mountain project in 90-s, something tells me it'd be way harder to hide those tunnels, especially due to the amount of workforce that will be used and the amount of rock that will be extracted in the process.
"It's like... 30 1x1km x 26m, 45 degrees angle slopes "hills" appearing over all of China." (citation from another forum)

And about those 3000 warheads... how did they come to that conclusion in first place? Do they have better knowledge on Chinese nuke-production capabilities (starting from the amount of fissionable material they have and can process?) then world's intelligence agencies?
 

GISdude

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skeptical

I'm not sure if this should have even been printed. It seems the study is built on speculation and conjecture.

Too many ????'s for this to be credible.
 

My2Cents

Active Member
I'm not sure if this should have even been printed. It seems the study is built on speculation and conjecture.

Too many ????'s for this to be credible.
That is typical of intelligence reports.

What actions would you suggest that the report writers carry out to bring the report up to the level you would consider it credible enough for printing?
 

W82DIE

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I doubt China has that nuclear capability I mean USA and Russia only have around 3500 bombs themselves...

Second no country is dumb enough to start a nuclear war since after these weapons are used people can no longer inhabit the land!
 

level4bodyarmor

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Level IV Body Armor

I know for a fact that there is a rivalry between Russia and America, but hearing different nuclear bombs alarm me that this is more serious than what I thought, I just pray and hope that people will stop fighting each other and learn to forgive though I know people cant easily forget.


Ben
 
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