China - Geostrategic & Geopolitical.

[Ananda]

详测龙芯3A6000——性能强到没有朋友

龙芯3A6000是龙芯中科自主研发的最新款桌面CPU，基于自主指令集——龙架构（Loongarch）。集成了4个龙芯自主研发的LA664核心，主频2.5GHz，4核8线程，使用境内12nm可控工艺生产。 几天前我申请到了龙芯中科的3A600…

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Found this from Chinese forums. This is in chinese, but it is open to google translate. This is article from Chinese IT media on Chinese Loongson CPU. If the test results is right, then it is already comparable to Intel or AMD latest CPU.

With all talk from Western media seems focus on how US going to block Chinese access on Litigraph machine. To Block Chinese capabilities toward smaller chips production. Tend to forget that what's important for semiconductor business, is who can win in day to day systems operation.

Something that translate to the operation of every day computers, smart phones, mobile devices, cars, planes, ships, etc. That's what matters on building capacities and capabilities on semiconductor business.

Those semiconductor on everyday commercial uses actually have better computing capabilities then most latest military equipment. Look at what Russia did with their military tech, using their own semiconductor that basically equivalent with two decades behind Western ones. Still provide capabilities that consider as smart weapon range. While China increasingly come to par with western ones on market.

 

[Musashi_kenshin]

Li Shangfu: Chinese defence minister sacked

The defence minister has been officially removed after not being seen in public since August.

www.bbc.co.uk

China's defence minister has now been officially sacked. No reasons have been given and no replacement announced. This is all, of course, perfectly normal in China's dysfunctional politicial system.

Queue meme of Xi Jinping sitting in a room on fire and saying "this is fine".

 

[Ananda]

Xi Jinping arrives in US as his Chinese Dream sputters

Economic woes put the Chinese leader in a more vulnerable negotiating position on this visit.

www.bbc.com

Chinese President Xi Jinping arrives in San Francisco

Chinese President Xi Jinping arrived on Tuesday afternoon local time in the U.S. City of San Francisco where he will attend a summit with U.S. President Joe Biden and the 30th Asia-Pacific Economic Cooperation (APEC) Economic Leaders' Meeting from November 14 to 17.

news.cgtn.com

Tech execs are reportedly 'scrambling' to score a ticket to a dinner with China's president in San Francisco

Xi Jinping is set to host an exclusive dinner for tech execs at APEC. Summit attendees include Citigroup's Jane Fraser, Elon Musk, and Satya Nadella.

www.businessinsider.com

Biden 'to get back on a normal course' with China; resume military communications

WASHINGTON: US President Joe Biden said on Tuesday (Nov 14) his goal during talks with Chinese President Xi Jinping this week is to resume normal communications between the two superpowers, including military-to-military contacts. Speaking to reporters at the White House before departing for San

www.channelnewsasia.com

Four different article from four different media, that shown what can be problematic meeting or part of business reconciliation.

BBC as part of main collective west media, try to shown Xi coming on disadvantage possition, AS weaken China. CGTN as part of Chinese Media shown Xi coming on strong position to represent stronger China. Business Insiders shown hope from most business communities on rekindle business environment. While CNA as part of Singapore and Southeast Asia Media shown more hope on reduce tensions between US and China.

Four different perspective from four different Media, each shown different agenda.

 

[Ananda]

스페이스X를 뒤쫓는 중국 재사용 로켓!

영상출처: 중국 아이스페이스 웨이보 (일본 아이스페이스와 구별 요망)

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Already couple weeks old, but this is being tounted as China answer to Space X. Even if this is a copy of design (as some in West put it) , is not easy to copy a High Tech projects. China consistently so far shown they can get answer from US and Collective West tech achievements.

Put it here, as reminder China despite set backs on economy still shown strong contender. This the meeting will determine how the contest will be play out later on.

 

[Musashi_kenshin]

China’s Xi goes full Stalin with purge

In a sign of instability in Beijing’s top ranks, foreign policy and defense officials are vanishing as Xi roots out perceived enemies.

www.politico.eu

Nothing new in terms of detail, but this is a useful summary of the mounting fear and paranoia within the CCP, particularly at the higher levels.

If I was a Chinese official I'd be looking to flee overseas with as much money as I could and cutting a deal with Washington, London or another big country. There's no reason to stay - even Xi's toadies are vulnerable to his insecurity.

 

[swerve]

"Full Stalin" is a bit OTT. How many have been shot, or even sent to labour camps? Yes, some have died surprisingly, or committed suicide (not necessarily voluntarily), but how many? The numbers being bruited about are quite small, not even thousands.

 

[Sandhi Yudha]

"Full Stalin" is a bit OTT. How many have been shot, or even sent to labour camps? Yes, some have died surprisingly, or committed suicide (not necessarily voluntarily), but how many? The numbers being bruited about are quite small, not even thousands.

And still if i was part of the chinese opposition, this sentence will make me nervous, even if Xi is just an "amateur-Stalin" or a "Stalin-Light".
And i think everyone who are not "on Xi's side", will that be too.

 

[swerve]

Me too. And not just opponents, but those who fear they may be thought insufficiently fawning, or perhaps willing to think independently. Xi appears to be moving more & more towards North Korean style uncritical adulation of the infallible leader. He's not been as murderous as Stalin, or Mao, or a Kim, but the "accidental" deaths, etc. are chilling.

 

[Redshift]

스페이스X를 뒤쫓는 중국 재사용 로켓!

영상출처: 중국 아이스페이스 웨이보 (일본 아이스페이스와 구별 요망)

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Already couple weeks old, but this is being tounted as China answer to Space X. Even if this is a copy of design (as some in West put it) , is not easy to copy a High Tech projects. China consistently so far shown they can get answer from US and Collective West tech achievements.

Put it here, as reminder China despite set backs on economy still shown strong contender. This the meeting will determine how the contest will be play out later on.

that looks to be the equivalent of SpaceX first prototype test launch and landing in 2013.

"In 2013, SpaceX demonstrated vertical landing on a Falcon 9 prototype after climbing 744 meters in the air."

From

VTVL - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

 

[Sandhi Yudha]

that looks to be the equivalent of SpaceX first prototype test launch and landing in 2013.

"In 2013, SpaceX demonstrated vertical landing on a Falcon 9 prototype after climbing 744 meters in the air."

From

VTVL - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

So the technogical gap between china compared to Russia and the US becomes smaller at an increasingly higher pace. When china sent its first taikonaut/yuhanghuan into space in 2003, they were more than 4 decades behind the Soviet-Union. Now they are just 10 years behind SpaceX. That's quite frightening.

 

[John Fedup]

So the technogical gap between china compared to Russia and the US becomes smaller at an increasingly higher pace. When china sent its first taikonaut/yuhanghuan into space in 2003, they were more than 4 decades behind the Soviet-Union. Now they are just 10 years behind SpaceX. That's quite frightening.

China’s gap is likely much less. Their espionage and computer hacking ability combined with poor Western counter measures (especially private sector companies) gives them almost quick access to new developments. The one bottleneck is exotic manufacturing techniques (almost art like). This information is hard steal and more importantly hard to master.

 

[Fredled]

It's interesting to note that China's defence minister has been sacked after he returned from an official visit in Russia. It's very weird that Xi entrusted Li (the defence minister) to a top level mission where he met Putin and the top Russian military brass, just to sack him one week later. Maybe they disagree on politics. Maybe he received a bribe. Who knows?

 

[Fredled]

About Chinese technology: It's already way superior to Russian technology by now. Not that much because they are spying (yes it helps, but that's not the only reason), but because their industry is very well advanced. The commercial and industrial contact with the West taught them the sens of quality they lacked, still ten years ago. This sens of quality is, IMO, more important than technology because they automatically improve their own technology if they have the right production mentality. The Russians lack totally this mentality.
China is a country growing technologically full speed. Instead of fearing them, we should admire them and take them as an example.
I don't think that China will want to make an economically suicidal confrontation with the West.

 

[Ananda]

I put it this 2018 PISA ranking, as this represent pre COVID-19 condition. 2023 PISA being talk not too representative as COVID conditions being argue distorted real conditions.

If we see the rank, China and it is territory (HK and Macau) score high in the chart. Above collective west, even Japan. Some argue China rank represents mostly big region in the coast. Well that's where most China Industry and workforce anyways. Some argue on the validity of PISA as barometer on educational level. This argument I read mostly from South Asian pundits (India, Pakistan) which seems try to justified why they are not include in this assessment.

Whatever the argument, this chart represents human resources pool capabilities to absorb the technology development. China often being talk benefits on ilegal copies and espionage as reason their fast tech catch up. Well, perhaps that's one of the reasons. However if they don't have reliable human resources pool, then how come they can absorb let alone develop those tech?

Reverse engineering, copies other people tech, espionage are basically done by everyone. However the capabilities of industrial base and more importantly their human resources pool are determining factors. That's why I put in this thread my reservation other emerging economies including India can catch up with China within this decades or next. Simply because they have to catch up with China Industrial base and more importantly their human resources pool in both quantities and qualities.

Russia number is down from China, but still in middle rank. Means they're having reliable enough human pool but will take times to catch up China own development in Industrial base. Right mind set and policies is important. However most important ones is your human resources pool. Without that, then you can only be middle players that work with someone else tech and chain. However can't sufficiently developed your own chain. That's what collective West has now, and what China and other emerging economies need to build on their own. So far China seems that shown can compete with collective West and allies industrial chains, even build their own industrial ecosystem networks.

 

[John Fedup]

About Chinese technology: It's already way superior to Russian technology by now. Not that much because they are spying (yes it helps, but that's not the only reason), but because their industry is very well advanced. The commercial and industrial contact with the West taught them the sens of quality they lacked, still ten years ago. This sens of quality is, IMO, more important than technology because they automatically improve their own technology if they have the right production mentality. The Russians lack totally this mentality.
China is a country growing technologically full speed. Instead of fearing them, we should admire them and take them as an example.
I don't think that China will want to make an economically suicidal confrontation with the West.

Most in China wouldn't see any economic benefit in confrontation with the West, unfortunately it is Xi who will decide the issue.

 

[Fredled]

@Ananda I agree with your analysis. I don't know if China deserve the first place or not because getting reliable information from China is wishful thinking. But they are certainly very competent in science and technology. Moreover they know how to do business.
India, they are not stupid neither but they are more socialist minded and don't really understand small scale business. But top tech always start with small scale. In their defence industry they fail miserably.

 

[Ananda]

Do remember PISA number is trying to get average number of students capabilities in each countries. Larger and more diversified country will be more difficult to get numbers of schools to participate in the assessment. Perhaps that's the reason why PISA only taking example from 4 areas which they see more representative of China industrial coastal area.

PISA actually being use by many MNC to see how one countries human resources pool situation. Thus they can use as one of assessment factor to decide what level of Industry that one country can be use within their industrial chain ecosystem. Perhaps this is why also China and PISA only focus on Industrial area in coast, as that's where China Industrial base located.

Either way emerging economies PISA number is very diverge base on area. I have a peek on detail population number of PISA for Indonesia from one of my clients. Basically a fifth has number similar in upper middle range, but the rest is close to bottom range. Thus dragging down overall average. However that fifth belong to industrial area on Java large cities. Thus for them as Investors, they know which industrial area has better human resources pool for more advanced industry.

India clearly has good pool for high tech, but I suspect if they're being assessed by PISA, the number will not be high, and more in similar range of most South East Asia countries. However even only 20% of their pool score high, that's already huge pool considering overall Indian human resources pool. 20% of Indian pool for example already close to overall EU pool. I do suspect that'll be mostly on large metropolitan industrial area. Typical situation with mostly emerging economies.

Still the average will not be as high with overall China. This is why China human resources pool will still be more prepared for more tech or higher brackets industrial chains. Yes good policies matter, but human resources pool qualities also big factors. This is one big factors why China can develop their tech even many of that originated from copies or even stollen tech.

Add:
China economic and business environment policies has been in question lately. Market analysts wants China focus more reviving domestic demands. While China seems more trying to revive their Industrial competitiveness back. Just example not all their policies in line with market expectations. Still has to be seen whose right. Market not always rights, but market known to adjust relative fast also, if they're wrong.

 

[ngatimozart]

China’s Xi goes full Stalin with purge

In a sign of instability in Beijing’s top ranks, foreign policy and defense officials are vanishing as Xi roots out perceived enemies.

www.politico.eu

Nothing new in terms of detail, but this is a useful summary of the mounting fear and paranoia within the CCP, particularly at the higher levels.

If I was a Chinese official I'd be looking to flee overseas with as much money as I could and cutting a deal with Washington, London or another big country. There's no reason to stay - even Xi's toadies are vulnerable to his insecurity.

Is it Xi purging members of his Politburo, or has the Politburo forced him to remove them? Hi treatment of Hu Jintao at the last five year CCP Congress will not have gone down well with everyone. He may not be in full control of his govt. Don't forget Mao had leadership challenges and problems in the 1960s with him being forced to into a less powerful position by the Politburo. Not all of his polices and decisions were to the benefit of the Party nor the people. That was why he launched the Cultural revolution in 1966 to regain his power.

"Full Stalin" is a bit OTT. How many have been shot, or even sent to labour camps? Yes, some have died surprisingly, or committed suicide (not necessarily voluntarily), but how many? The numbers being bruited about are quite small, not even thousands.

Yes it is because there are not the widespread disappearances amongst the public like there were under Stalin. I don't believe that Xi has anywhere near the total control and fear that Stalin had.

 

[John Fedup]

Is it Xi purging members of his Politburo, or has the Politburo forced him to remove them? Hi treatment of Hu Jintao at the last five year CCP Congress will not have gone down well with everyone. He may not be in full control of his govt. Don't forget Mao had leadership challenges and problems in the 1960s with him being forced to into a less powerful position by the Politburo. Not all of his polices and decisions were to the benefit of the Party nor the people. That was why he launched the Cultural revolution in 1966 to regain his power.

Yes it is because there are not the widespread disappearances amongst the public like there were under Stalin. I don't believe that Xi has anywhere near the total control and fear that Stalin had.

Xi does have a control advantage via the immense security apparatus (technological and human). The budget for this rivals the defence budget. Even George Orwell would be astounded.

 

[Sandhi Yudha]

A very remarkable case. A Belgian politician from the nationalistic right political party Vlaams Belang worked for three years for communist china as informant, from 2019-2022. This article is telling that he seems to be put under pressure to become an informant, by a chinese intelligence officer and that he also had to influence discussions about china.

He is now kicked out of his political party.

Belgische politicus was jarenlang informant Chinese geheime dienst

In die rol moest hij discussies binnen de Europese politiek beïnvloeden. Het ging daarbij bijvoorbeeld over onderwerpen als covid, de Oeigoerse moslimminderheid of de democratie in Hongkong.

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