I had a similar impression from the scale of the damages overall. It makes me wonder whether, in this case, the cure may have been worse than the disease, i.e. that some significant part of the damages was caused not by the drones itself, but by firing missiles at low altitude with insufficient accuracy around a refinery full of highly flammable materials.
Just to follow up. Russian MoD reported that Ukraine used 992 drones and 4 cruise missiles. Some Ukrainian sources report the same number of drones and 10 “mini cruise missiles” in Moscow attack. An incredible number. The cure cannot be worse than the disease, I would think. How many targets were intercepted (or “lost”? 950? 970? 990? Out of approximately 1,000? I mean Kyiv looks worse than that almost every time it is attacked (there are no fuel tanks left for visual effects), and that is provided all the advertised “ingenuity” and “knowhow”. Out of curiosity, I looked but couldn’t find how many drones had attacked Kyiv simultaneously. The most I found is 600 drones and 90 missiles they say targeted Kyiv, but I am 99% sure it is all of Ukraine, not just Kyiv. Multiple Geran slamming into targets is normal though. A recent example from Kharkiv (the second link Google search provided), multiple explosions had already taken place (at least two) and 4 more hit what appears to be the same target:
So yeah, while the cure is not perfect, it is most certainly significantly better than we are led to believe. Imagine what the Middle East looked like if Iran could sustain these numbers for the period that the war lasted.
Propagandist’s “BDA” (aka, things that didn’t happen (I am amazed people still take this guy seriously after years of “reporting”)):
Also interesting and general thread related:
Like I mentioned in the Middle East thread a while back, here prices went from 1.10 CAD per litre on February 27 to 1.90 just a few weeks ago. Still at 1.70 at most gas stations or, in other words, prices have increased 55% since end of February (to today, over 70% to May). I am not saying there are no issues, but people need to calm down and look at it with a realistic outlook.
Another garbage take and things that didn’t happen for the general thread. The poster is talking about the Moscow strike.
Not a single remark I heard in any of the videos was in Arabic. And what the hell does “other Muslim-majority languages” even mean? These people are idiots. For fun (and to make a point), I googled for the refinery location, opened the map and looked around. Low and behold, I didn’t have to look far at all.
The storage part of the refinery is to the left of the middle. North is more refinery infrastructure and other industrial stuff. To the right of the middle, where that blue symbol is, is… bazaar, a market, and a giant one, called Sadovod (means gardner). This is where most of the videos came from. So I went back to the browser and searched for Sadovod. It told me that it is the largest wholesale and retail market in Russia. Laughing. I wonder who one is most likely to meet at such a place in Russia? I would bet my last it would be representatives of those “other Muslim-majority languages”, which include folks from Azerbaijan, Tadzhikistan, Turkmenistan, and other -tans.
Funny enough, the low-iq influencer is also a racist. His post makes it clear. And is as dumb as the proponents of the Russia defenders of “white Christian values” or whatever it is he says.
Anyway, for clarity, there are no “white Christian values” and I don’t know who came up with it. Russia has more muslims than any other country in Europe and I would guess in top… five in the world among the non-muslim majority countries. Absolute majority of them identify as Russians (as in Rossiyane, an equivalent of Canadian or American) as they have been living in Russia for centuries. They are also called orcs, vatniks, etc - ie Russians when they fight snd die on the battlefield - by the same influencers. The rest came from the post-Soviet -tans, looking for better life, work, trade (sell produce and fruit, for instance), etc. Also, among these “other Muslim-majority languages”, an idiot may hear Armenian or Georgian as well, for example, but not recognize them as such - they would not be as common either. In this case I say an idiot not because lack of recognition of “other Christian languages (?)”, but due to sweeping up all languages that are not Russian into the same pile. Another fun fact: all the languages he heard are not of the Arabic origin, but Turkish (an “original” of which one would undoubtedly hear at the same market). He should be thankful he didn’t hear any Chinese or his head would explode while coming up with the nonsense to post for lemming consumption.
