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Reptilia

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Navantia’s pitch for our future air warfare destroyer replacement requirement has broken cover with the commencement of Indo Pacific 2025…

Pretty much as expected, but they have gone early for something we won’t see until the HCF kerfuffle has cleared out…

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Possible Antarctic icebreaking Patrol/Corvette/Frigate also?

 

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Volkodav

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Todjaeger

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128 VLS cells !!! The quoted range seems a tad too short for our area of operations.
Might depend on what the cruising speed is. IIRC the ANZAC-class was 6,000 n miles @18 kts, whilst the Adelaide-class was ~4,500 n miles at the same speed. Of course though, the FFH could easily have dropped with the modifications and requisite ballasting which increased displacement and draught.
 
Navantia’s pitch for our future air warfare destroyer replacement requirement has broken cover with the commencement of Indo Pacific 2025…

Pretty much as expected, but they have gone early for something we won’t see until the HCF kerfuffle has cleared out…
I wonder why they've gone with no bridge wings in the design. Same as their Indo Pacific 2023 designs.

Independence LCS didn't then later had them added . Mogami didn't, but does for Upgraded Mogami.

The Davies 120 above has them, but enclosed.

Are bridge wings important vs replacing with extra external cameras & more stealth?
 

CrustyRusty

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I am wondering why the new 9th Evolved Cape class ADV Cape Spencer has hull number 225, when all the other Evolved Capes have numbers starting with 3?
With the previous two Cape's being Cape Woolamai #318 and Cape Pillar #319, I had guessed that Cape Spencer would be #320?
 

StevoJH

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I am wondering why the new 9th Evolved Cape class ADV Cape Spencer has hull number 225, when all the other Evolved Capes have numbers starting with 3?
With the previous two Cape's being Cape Woolamai #318 and Cape Pillar #319, I had guessed that Cape Spencer would be #320?
If I had to guess, a ship belonging to a NATO or NATO-associated navy probably already uses the Pennant number 320 or P320.
 

Wombat000

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It seems an interesting Pennant Numbering convention.
The USN, which is a NATO member numbers its ships as it sees fit, correct?

Obviously the USN is massive and has the same pennant numbers used at the same time between classes of ships.
Australia, which is not a member of NATO accommodates the convention, perhaps from its historical links to the RN?
I’m aware that the RAN avoids pennant number 40.

…..or have I totally mis-read this?
 

Going Boeing

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Nice article on the hunter class build.


Hopefully the build will continue on time and budget. We desperately need these ships
This is a similar article - it’s reassuring to hear that it is progressing well.

https://www.baesystems.com/en-aus/i...rst-hunter-class-frigate-is-now-in-production
 

iambuzzard

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Reptilia

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Highly doubt they go a clean sheet destroyer design, selection will likely follow on from a U.K or Japanese destroyer program.

2028 roll out for Hunter sounds promising.
 

spoz

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We are party to the NATO system for pennant numbers and many other things as an associated power. We use STANAGS and NATO publications, as well as fitting in to the NATO system of pennant numbers. And each country party to that system is allocated numbers, or blocks of numbers, for its use. The US doesn’t participate.

So Hobart is D39, Arunta F151, Supply A95. Since the late 1960s we have chosen not to paint up the letter designating the ship type, known as the flag superior, on hulls of combat ships but we still do on auxiliaries. (For a while we painted up auxiliaries using the US system but we’ve given that up.). Other navies such as the RN (in NATO) and the RNZN (associated) still do paint up the flag superior. Which we still do use when employing visual signalling methods - flags and lights.

The US system is to start each ship type with “1” and go from there with each type having a two letter or more type designation. So DDG1was USS Gyatt, a Gearing class converted in the early 1960s. Again, preceding letters are not painted up except for auxiliaries which for USN ships used to paint up all the letters after “A” in the type designation (“OR” for “AOR”, replenishment oilers) although that practice seems somewhat spotty these days. MSC ships (prefix USNS instead of USS) precede the type designation with “T-“. Generally if they paint up, the whole thing is painted up - “T-AO” for an MSC oiler.
 
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Reptilia

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Austal Defence Australia will takeover LCM design and build from nsw based shipbuilder Birdon -the West Australian.

‘Subject to finalisation of detailed contractual terms, Austal Defence Australia anticipates that a further LCM Design & Build Tasking Statement to continue to mature the design and then construct and deliver the LCM will be awarded in Q4 of CY2025.‘



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