No. You don't appear to understand the concept of the hull that is the basis for the Type 31. Forget about the Royal Navy configuration because that is a complete bastardisation of a perfectly great hull. You should read the posts that both MrConservative and myself have made about a Type 31 / F-370 variant in RNZN service. We have our detractors, especially Australian, but we do believe that it is entirely viable.
You seem to have a continued misunderstanding of the situation regarding the NZDF budget. The difficulties and limitations the NZDF has in terms of purchasing kit and maintaining capabilities is due to budget limitations imposed by gov't, and not due to budget limitations imposed by any economic difficulties NZ is currently experiencing. If the gov't of the day decided to, it could increase the Vote Defence spend and then the NZDF would have more funding to both purchase more/new/better kit, but also increase the ability to operate and sustain existing kit and capabilities. Depending on the size of any such hypothetical Vote Defence increase, it might even be possible for historical NZDF capabilities to be re-raised.
Why wouldn't an up specced Type 31work for the requirements of the NZG and needs of the RNZN? If that is what we end up going with I doubt that it would be in the UK variant and specs...ren0312 said:
Well that's constructive towards the conversation???
Nope. Nada. Nyet. Nein. Wouldn't handle the Southern Ocean.
Frigates are the core of RNZN and we would all agree that we need more. By prioritising and starting a new build program over a period of time we would initially build say two vessels to give four altogether including our Anzac"s with further increases to replace those Anzac"s or even add more. The ball needs to start rolling now so that planning gets underway.
Unofficially the RNZN have been eying all the frigate programs... They have looked at the Type 26, and the Type 31, and the FTI/FDI program and I am sure they are keeping a close eye on the Constellation Frigate Program. They probably are keeping an eye on other programs that we are not even aware of or may not even think of... And they will keep a close eye on them as the develop.
not a chance... Something would have to drastically change and give the pollies a fright...
How do you delete your posts here? On a laptop I can not edit them after some time.
You can only delete them for the same time that you can edit them m.
Certainly the RCN will be exceeding 35 years.
Didnt know that! Surprising, I thought Canada had a much bigger budget and a different mindset towards defence.
3 of the Tribal class Destroyers passed 40 years, i know that included a major MLU rebuild but still.
Is this going to cause expensive structural issues with the age of these ships and ours for that matter, what about to electrical systems in board? I've read HMNZS Canterbury had a few onboard fires in its last few years of service. I wonder if it would be worthwhile salvaging anything of our frigates to reuse on new ships, naval gun, ciws etc.