It appears the admiral was mistaken, and the ship carries 16 Kalibr and 16 Redut. Either that or even the new model displayed is significantly different from the end design.
One can only hope. The AVMF has almost no ASW capabilities in the Baltic or Black seas.
Good new about the Tu-204/214. How much will be modified to ASW comfiguration? It can be a good replacement for the Il-38.
Peter the Great will go into modernization after the Nakhimov returns to service. With that in mind, the 22350 will likely be the workhorse together with the 1155s, in terms of VMF blue-water deployments.
I was wonder the first four all project 22350 going to the Northern Fleet. They only have 32 vls for aaw missiles, so they probably massing 22350s for possible deployments with the Admiral Kuznetsov. When the Peter the Great undergoes modernization, the Northern fleet's medium to long AAW capabilities, would be limited to Marshal Ustinov without the 22350s. The VMF should've put Kerpost vls on the 22350s. The Kerpost can fire the 48N6, 40N6, and 9M96 (4 per cell) missiles families.
I hope that project dies quietly without completion. Further development and polish of the 20380, coupled with mass production of the 22350, is what the VMF needs.
There has been inconsistent info about a future ASW aircraft for a while based on either the A-40/42, or the Be-200, or the Tu-204. However it's not the aircraft that matters, it's the loadout, and that's where Russia is badly behind.I have no details about possible tu-204/214 ASW specifications. But the same statements about producing other new maritime ASW have been made over last few years.
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It has been reported the Nakhimov will go to Pacific Fleet when it reenters service. I have been tolded that the next 4 22350 (24 Kalibr vls) will go to the Pacific Fleet. And then the first 22350M will replace the major combatants of the Baltic and Black Sea Fleets. This scenario would be reasonable since the LHD mostly will be deployed in the Pacific.
The 20386 is a test bed project. Many West Navies or now using surface combatants with electric motors for ASW. The basic 22350 is probably finished after the 8 basic models are finished. The 20385 is much more limited ship then 20386 frigate. The 20386s are much better ships in the ASW and ASUW then 20385. The 20386 could easily carry multiple UUVs for ASW.
I have my doubts about the Nakhimov, and the 22350Ms. I think it's far more likely that the original 22350s will be rotated to the Baltic and Black seas while the new 22350Ms go to the Pacific and Northern fleets.
The 20386 is extremely expensive, it's cost is approaching the 22350 range, which is a significantly larger and more capable ship. For anti-submarine warfare, it was significantly inferior to the 20380, carrying a simplified sonar. The endurance of the ship remains unknown, but tonnage makes it a light frigate at the price tag of a medium frigate. It retains the problems with the radar and SAM of the 20380s. The VMF needs a corvette, something it can build in large numbers, and the 20380/385 provides that. 6 are in service, a 7th is under trials, and 5 more under construction. With funding, and upgrades to the specific areas the 20380 is deficient in, it can become a highly viable platform, with easily 12-15 in service by the end of this decade. The 20386 can't be built in those numbers, costs many times more, and hasn't even completed development. As for container based anti-submarine kit.... I'll believe it when I see it. Russia has yet to mass-deploy basic ship-based UAVs. They've experimented with Orlan-10 on 20380s and 11356s, but it's not standard yet.
The 22350s have just 32AAW vls. A few 22250M dedicated AAW destroyers would increase the fleets AAW capabilities by a fair amount.
€1.850.000.000 for just one ship is a lot...
This article says nothing about the type of / class of the vessels.
The last reports showed a design that is neither Priboy nor Lavina but look like a Russified Mistral, present by AK Bars. Given the success of Zelenodol'sk and their nature desire to move into the Crimean yards, don't be surprised if that's the one that end sup being chosen.
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I'm not sure this is accurate. The only real facts we have at this time are that the design bureau has completed one stage of the project, and has not at this time been awarded a contract for the next stage of either project. It's entirely possible that we're just looking at a bureaucratic hiccup. And while I'm ready to believe that they postpone (again) or cancel the Lider project, I doubt they would be willing to do the same for the 22350M. If they did that, the largest future VMF warship would be a 4500 tonn frigate (once their Soviet era destroyers and cruisers are retired of course).Sounds like an end to the Project 23560 Lider Class Cruiser and the enhanced 23350 M Frigates Although the successful Admiral Gorshkov is still slated for a build of as many as 18-20 hulls. The enhanced Gorshkov would have increased the VLS to a total of 48 from 16 cells.
Makes one wonder if this is a result of years of economic sanction/low oil prices or perhaps the success of the 23350s has lead to the halt especially of the 23560 Cruisers. The Heavy cruisers were Kirov sized and were rumored to potentially have nuclear propulsion.
Russia Has Abandoned Its Massive Nuclear Destroyer And Supersized Frigate Programs
The state-run shipbuilding company responsible for both programs now has concerns about its long-term finances.
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