Video: U.S. Military Vehicle Blown Up In Fallujah

tatra

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Pakistani Pilot said:
A homemade bomb blows up a Us Aggressor Military vehicle by the Iraqi Freedom Fighters, requires Media Player to see the clip

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article6931.htm
@ Pakistani Pilot: Would it be too difficult to just stick with facts i.e. "US Army M1 tank blown up in Iraq with an IED comprising a 500 lb aircraft bomb" I don't much care for propagandistic phraseology (from either side), thank you.
 

highsea

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Geez, tatra, you took all the wind out of my sails. :D: It's guys like you, adsH, Grem, gf, Sri, Webs, Sabre, umair, corsair, PJ-10, that keep me logging in. Sometimes I have to wait a while, but I've noticed that a reasoned discussion is not an isolated incident here on DT.

This is what I was going to say:

me said:
Yeah, thank God for those "freedom fighters" who are working so diligently to prevent elections in Iraq.

After all, if it wasn't for their valiant efforts, the Iraqi people might foolishly have a chance to choose their own destiny. Can't have that, can we? Hell no! Not when we know better!

We all know that they are not capable of choosing for themselves, so it falls on us poor humble judges to show them the right path. Thank God they have us on their side.

It's a good thing that people like pilot and you, syeduzair, are here to save the Iraqis from their own bad decisions. That's not to say that you actually live there, but let's not quibble over details.

Hell in my 44 short years, it's obvious that I have learned nothing, and am as completely ignorant as the day I was born (with my Bilderberger/Free Mason lifetime membership card clutched in my tiny little hands).

Those damn Zionists anyway! Geez, How was I to know that all this time I was being completely controlled by the Neo-con, Anti-Muslim, Terrorist, Darwinist, Zionist, Bilderberger VRWC? Wow! I had no idea! I sure am dumb!

My good friends have shown me that the victim is the criminal, and the criminal is the victim. How was I to know? Boy, it sure makes you think.

And to think that all this time I've been doing what I want, when I want, saying what I think, living my life based on my own choices, and the whole time I've been nothing more than a mindless cog in the grand Zionist plan for World Domination (or is it a US plan?, I can't really tell). It depends which day I am being accused, and for which crime.

I'm sure the Iraqi people will thank our friends at some later date. That is, of course if they survive...
See? I didn't need to say any of that. ;)

Oh. yeah, go read PAF's Lavon conspiracy thread. I won't go there, because of the obvious ass-rubbing, but someone should, just to make him feel important.

PAF, some free advice: stick to the alien invasion stuff. It's more believable.

-CM~~~and with that, gentlemen, I bid you a fine and good evening
 

Londo Molari

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Pakistani Pilot said:
A homemade bomb blows up a Us Aggressor Military vehicle by the Iraqi Freedom Fighters, requires Media Player to see the clip

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article6931.htm
Good find, and don't worry, your statement is true, and not propagandistic. He's just sensitive because you didn't declare all Muslim parties to be terrorists, and because you posted it at all.

Good to see SOMEONE in Iraq is atleast hitting military targets... So far both sides have just been massacring civilians.
 

webmaster

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What if same people target civilians, what does that make them? After 10 car bombs in markets (killing 100s and injuring many) and one attack on military APC, that doesn't make them "freedom Fighters" in any book!
 

Gremlin29

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Typical clearinghouse video :lol Notice they show a full minute worth of zooming in and out of the bomb but the tape ends before the dust settles. The rest of the tape goes like this:

Smoke and dust clear, tankers climb out of the M1 (yeah it's an M1) scratching their heads wondering what that <<bump>> was. Tankers climb back in M1 (which has some freshly minted scratches) and drive off. bwahahahahahahahahah
 

Londo Molari

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Definitely killing civilians is an act of terrorism. However, I look at things on a case by case basis. Terrorism has nothing to do with this thread and the starting post of this thread, in my opinion, has no propaganda in it.
 

Pathfinder-X

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Gremlin29 said:
Typical clearinghouse video :lol Notice they show a full minute worth of zooming in and out of the bomb but the tape ends before the dust settles. The rest of the tape goes like this:

Smoke and dust clear, tankers climb out of the M1 (yeah it's an M1) scratching their heads wondering what that <<bump>> was. Tankers climb back in M1 (which has some freshly minted scratches) and drive off. bwahahahahahahahahah
The blast seems to impact on the right side of the tank, which has composite armor equal to the strength of 500mm steel protecting it. Withstanding the blast shouldn't be a problem. Tank crew might be a little shaken and the tank tread might have came off, but nothing beyond repair.
 

tatra

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Pathfinder-X said:
Gremlin29 said:
Typical clearinghouse video :lol Notice they show a full minute worth of zooming in and out of the bomb but the tape ends before the dust settles. The rest of the tape goes like this:

Smoke and dust clear, tankers climb out of the M1 (yeah it's an M1) scratching their heads wondering what that <<bump>> was. Tankers climb back in M1 (which has some freshly minted scratches) and drive off. bwahahahahahahahahah
The blast seems to impact on the right side of the tank, which has composite armor equal to the strength of 500mm steel protecting it. Withstanding the blast shouldn't be a problem. Tank crew might be a little shaken and the tank tread might have came off, but nothing beyond repair.
Mmm. I don't know about that. There's a lot of debris flying through the air... but you can't tell if it's pieces of tank (could also be parts of another vehicle e.g. a car in which the IED was hidden). Anyway, overpressure from the blast and concussion may kill even if the hull and turret remain essentially intact.
 

tatra

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Londo Molari said:
He's just sensitive because you didn't declare all Muslim parties to be terrorists, and because you posted it at all.
C'mon Londo, you know better then that...

Londo Molari said:
Good to see SOMEONE in Iraq is atleast hitting military targets... So far both sides have just been massacring civilians.
... here I have to agree with you. I figure the bulk of the population, the average Joe (or should I say Ali :) is stuck between a rock and a hard place. Image yourself on your way to put some food on the table for your family, and walking on the sidewalk just across the street from where that IED went off ....
 

Gremlin29

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If it were an earlier generation tank the overpressure could definately contribute to a kill owing to the close proximity of the blast. Can't tell from the vid for sure but it appears the tank was buttoned up in which case I would be highly surprised if overpressure would cause death (the M1 is overpressurized). Conversely, it's amazing how resilient the human being can be sometimes. There are numerous accounts of troops surviving terrific barrages from aerial bombardment and large artillery. Look at the Germans in their bunkers on Normandy in WWII. They survived direct close fire from 18" guns!

The bomb being a simple iron bomb type, aside from shrapnel damage it's probably not going to KO an M1 completely. Regardless of how any of us view this politically or otherwise, you gotta admit it was one heck of an explosion!
 

Pathfinder-X

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tatra said:
Mmm. I don't know about that. There's a lot of debris flying through the air... but you can't tell if it's pieces of tank (could also be parts of another vehicle e.g. a car in which the IED was hidden). Anyway, overpressure from the blast and concussion may kill even if the hull and turret remain essentially intact.
tatra, under U.S battle manual, armor vehicles always close their hatch when in a "hot" zone. In the video, hatch were closed as far as I can tell, which means that the crews may received only a few bumps on their head. M1A2 was designed to withstand ATGMs, tank rounds and IED(Lessons learned from Chechnya). So unless a tank crew is dumb enough to open their hatch in a hostile zone like Fallujah, they will be fine.
 

tatra

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Pathfinder-X said:
tatra said:
Mmm. I don't know about that. There's a lot of debris flying through the air... but you can't tell if it's pieces of tank (could also be parts of another vehicle e.g. a car in which the IED was hidden). Anyway, overpressure from the blast and concussion may kill even if the hull and turret remain essentially intact.
tatra, under U.S battle manual, armor vehicles always close their hatch when in a "hot" zone. In the video, hatch were closed as far as I can tell, which means that the crews may received only a few bumps on their head. M1A2 was designed to withstand ATGMs, tank rounds and IED(Lessons learned from Chechnya). So unless a tank crew is dumb enough to open their hatch in a hostile zone like Fallujah, they will be fine.
Yeah yeah, I know. I'm not sure though that the M1 was designed to withstand ATGM etc from all angles. Besides, even if locked down, you can still break you neck.
 

Gremlin29

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I agree tatra. I'm not trying to say that the guys inside are imune to everything, and your point is well taken. Let just say IF they survived, I bet they were in need of some new underwear!
 

tatra

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Gremlin29 said:
I agree tatra. I'm not trying to say that the guys inside are imune to everything, and your point is well taken. Let just say IF they survived, I bet they were in need of some new underwear!
:D: :D: :D: :D: (what's that smell ....?) :D: :D: :D:
 
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