Ukrayina - The unfinished Slava cruiser

Lostfleet

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Due to recent events between Ukraine and Russia, any co-operation to complete the ship is probably out of question.

The ship was launched in 1983, works stopped on the ship in the beginning of the 1990s,

I have few questions

- is there any information about current status of the ship ( wikipedia says %95 percent complete but what does that include? the machinary, weapons systems, electronic equipment?)

- was there any maintenance work done on the ship since its launch?

- if anyone wanted to finish the ship, would it be more feasible to finish the ship or build a brand new one?

- Before the events past year, as far as I know Ukraine was not interested with this ship, however to reinforce their fleet would they be willing to finish the ship?

- If yes, without Russian equipment, which systems from which countries would they deploy ? ( US, Western, Chinese ? )


If you can answer all the questions I will order you a pizza :p
 

StobieWan

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I've just looked at a picture of the thing and it's looking worse off than some ships I've seen in the breakers yards.

Materially, even if it were finished 100%, it's been laid up for twenty years meaning her entire fitout is at best, out of date. At worst, everything will be seized, jammed, corroded or other wise useless by the looks of the image I've just looked at - there's no evidence of any protective measures having put in place when she was laid up, she just looks like she's been left in the water to rot.

The Ukraine would be better off building new I'm sure.
 

kev 99

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Yes it would make a great deal of sense if Ukraine just sent this ship to the scrapyard before it sinks at it's birth.
 

Lostfleet

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latest news is from 2012

Ukraine Invested UAH 6 mln in Maintenance of Ukraina Cruiser

I found a few websites which have better close-ups of the ship, it seems a lot of weapon systems and antennas are installed, however does that mean the interior equipment is also installed ?

It is a shame to see such a completed ship rotting by itself,

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StobieWan

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That interior looks tidy but it's more like a museum ship than I'd feared - you'd have to pull the whole thing apart and install something still in service and it'd be a single ship type in the Navy.
 

Feanor

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Ukraine has 3 warships left. They don't need this cruiser. They never did. They should've pawned it to Russia for gas debts, back in the early 2000s.
 

StobieWan

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From what I understood, the only price Russia was willing to accept was "for free" - not sure if they'd have taken credits against debts but if that were available, that'd have been the smart move.
 

Feanor

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From what I understood, the only price Russia was willing to accept was "for free" - not sure if they'd have taken credits against debts but if that were available, that'd have been the smart move.
Russia would've taken it for gas debts in the early 2000s, or late 90s. In the Yanukovich era, when they had given Ukraine a discount on gas and Ukraine wasn't in gas debts, they offered to take the ship for free (it was considerably more decrepit by that point) with the condition to arrange modernization and overhaul of the ship in Ukraine. It would've amounted to paying more then the price of the ship to Ukraine, in contracts.
 

Lostfleet

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I guess the ship is going to sit there for the near future, I hope they will convert the ship to a museum in the future, it would be a shame to see the ship to go to a scrapyard.

It would have been a nice set piece for the tv show The Last Ship, especially for the interior,
 
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