British intel opining:
euromaidanpress.com
Come out and tell us what part of the mediazona methodology you object to. If anything, the MZ estimates are biased low.
Who says UKR has lost 1M+. Where do you get the UKR estimates from ? I found this website:
ualosses.org
Who is "we"? Any reader here is likely fully informed about both RU and UKR losses.
"We" as western media, unless you think that Deyhere means this thread with his "western media".Come out and tell us what part of the mediazona methodology you object to. If anything, the MZ estimates are biased low.
Who says UKR has lost 1M+. Where do you get the UKR estimates from ? I found this website:
UA Losses
This website presents statistics of documented Ukrainian losses during the war in Ukraine.
However, I dont see thier stated methodologies.
Who is "we"? Any reader here is likely fully informed about both RU and UKR losses.
You claimed the estimates are biased. Please tell us why you think mediazona estimates are biased low. Did you read their explanations of the methodology ?
Your methodology is weaker than Mediazona's methodologies.
You can say something negative about Russia without saying something negative about Ukraine in the same post. Both can be true, and nobody here needs the information carefully balanced to avoid drawing the "wrong" conclusion. Give the rest of us some credit. We can form our own opinions, even after seeing a Mediazona link.
Deyhere was talking about western media, that is Ukrainian media saying that they are not in the business of publishing what readers want to read. Reality is neither positive nor negative, wishful thinking is not exactly reality. Have you seen any of that around here or in western media?
Yes, I've seen it. On every side. And I agree: wishful thinking is not reality.
Feanor cited, there was no link to read. Deyhere was talking about western media, vikingatespam added a link about an estimate of casualties; estimates are "tricky" and the link mentions BBC so, UK so, western bias, not only human bias.
I don't have issues with Mediazona estimates, in reality, it might be higher or it might be lower. what i totally disagree with, is when media and some in the west put Russian casualties higher than that of Ukraine. i think Ukrainian casualties are 3 times higher than that of Russia, just look at the body bag exchanges, one time Russia retuned 1000 bodies, Ukraine returned 35. all exchanges put together, Russia returned thousands, Ukraine return a few hundred.
www.bbc.co.uk
I don't think this is correct. Ukraine has a massive MIA count which many casualty estimate counters place in the same bucket as KIAs because they mostly are. Ukraine has lost a lot of territory where heavy fighting took place. As a result Russia hasn't even recovered all Ukrainian dead inside their lines. We will see many more lopsided body exchanges over the coming months/years. I think 1:1 is the best estimate at this time, with the reality that it's obviously not exactly 1:1 but likely well below 2:1 in some direction.I don't have issues with Mediazona estimates, in reality, it might be higher or it might be lower. what i totally disagree with, is when media and some in the west put Russian casualties higher than that of Ukraine. i think Ukrainian casualties are 3 times higher than that of Russia, just look at the body bag exchanges, one time Russia retuned 1000 bodies, Ukraine returned 35. all exchanges put together, Russia returned thousands, Ukraine return a few hundred.
Russia says it has handed over 1,000 Ukrainian soldiers' bodies
Russia's announcement comes as Ukraine's top negotiator met US peace envoys in Geneva.
This is probably a real number. It matches well with recruiting needs, and you'll note when Russia was recruiting closer to ~40k a month, Russia has able to expand the size of their forces. I suspect both sides are losing somewhere around 25-35k in KIA and WIA per month.Recently Donald Tusk, polish prime minister said Ukraine is losing 27 thousand men a month, killed and wounded. i think this has been Ukraines real casualty numbers all along or it might be worst.
Polish leader Tusk exposes classified figures on sky-high Ukrainian casualties (Ukraine Battlefield update, Day 1,667)
With tens of thousands of Ukrainians reportedly killed or wounded each month, the coming autumn and winter campaign could stretch Ukraine’s manpower, air defences, and battered cities to breaking point.euobserver.com
What is your methodology based on ? P : P estimates/rates of advance ? QJM ? RAND ? TNDM ?
That's insane to think about. I doubt this war can end in a way where anyone thinks it was worth it.
I have to say that I am a bit surprised, it has been already mentioned that "bodies returned" is not a valid parameter for casualties. Anyway, how does Deyhere goes from 1000:35 to 3:1? Maybe he simply likes the number "3"?
Yes, look at the last map
southfront.press
But it still happened, and was followed up by numerous attacks on grain ships was it not? Didn't Russia embargo grain shipments?British intel opining:
UK intel: Russia's September missile strike on grain ship likely due to poor targeting - Euromaidan Press
On 11 September 2024, Russia's missile strike on the grain ship MV Aya was likely unintentional, caused by poor targeting procedures and outdated munitions, per UK intelligence.
I asked an AI to analyse your posts, and mine as it happens. Definitely interesting reading it found your use of Potapych in your nick to be quite telling.British intel opining:
UK intel: Russia's September missile strike on grain ship likely due to poor targeting - Euromaidan Press
On 11 September 2024, Russia's missile strike on the grain ship MV Aya was likely unintentional, caused by poor targeting procedures and outdated munitions, per UK intelligence.