Should PN aquire stealth ships ?
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Well firstly PN don;t need any slealth ship. India buyed slealth ship becasue it wnated to become blue waater one.
Pakistan has small area to portect and even if he buyed slealth ship then it will have the limited cability and can easily be countered by the maritime planes or with latest Bhromos antiship misslies duying the day time.
Getting the slealth surface ship is easy for IN.
Pakistan has small area to portect and even if he buyed slealth ship then it will have the limited cability and can easily be countered by the maritime planes or with latest Bhromos antiship misslies duying the day time.
Getting the slealth surface ship is easy for IN.
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i dont get wat ur sayin. Its ur grammar.
i dont get wat ur sayin. Its ur grammar.
Sorry .. becasue the time i wrote that i was in a hurry /......
Anyway , Pak don;t need any stealth ship becasue ....
1) it is costly and no Country will provide this technology.
2) Slealth ship is good during night and in day time it is easily spotable.
3) Pn don;t wanna become blue water navy.
4) In day time IN navy will hunt it down with its maritime planes and when it is spotted it will be then sank down with the volly of anti ship missiles.
the reasons for going after stealth ship may be :-
India making its stealth ship off it own moreover india want to beocme blue water navy where long night mission is possible , so india needs that type of ship.
Stealth ship also increase india's image in marinetime power and in the field of technology and engg.
Anyway , Pak don;t need any stealth ship becasue ....
1) it is costly and no Country will provide this technology.
2) Slealth ship is good during night and in day time it is easily spotable.
3) Pn don;t wanna become blue water navy.
4) In day time IN navy will hunt it down with its maritime planes and when it is spotted it will be then sank down with the volly of anti ship missiles.
the reasons for going after stealth ship may be :-
India making its stealth ship off it own moreover india want to beocme blue water navy where long night mission is possible , so india needs that type of ship.
Stealth ship also increase india's image in marinetime power and in the field of technology and engg.
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There will not be any funds problem, but we can only afford the stealth systems, not the whole ship.
If u think that INs MiG-29 will do the job, then dont worry. JF-17s will be there to counter those planes. About antiship missiles, It is not a big threat to PN. The JF-17 may carry the deadly C-802K missiles and hence we can do the same thing which u said.
If u think that INs MiG-29 will do the job, then dont worry. JF-17s will be there to counter those planes. About antiship missiles, It is not a big threat to PN. The JF-17 may carry the deadly C-802K missiles and hence we can do the same thing which u said.[/quote]
My dear friend i don;t think india need Mig 29, Jagur, sea Harrer and SU 30.
Indian ships are armed with a BARAK Anti -Anti Ship Missile , which has 100% accuracy again subsonic missiles. Which can also stop C-802K or Harpoon missiles or any.
Indian will have Supersonic 300km range Brahmos Supersonic Anti ship missile which only India and Russia have and it is unstopable. It can also be launched from Air , Land and Ship. Will be come into action in 2004
I thought the deal for BARAK missiles from Israel was signed like two days ago wasn't it?? so they are not operational as yet. I don't know about the accuracy of the system and feasability so will not comment on that.Su_37 said:
The Brahmos (Russian Yakhont) is a formidable missile and will be posing the greatest risk to the PN fleet. I think this is one good reason for Pakistan to be acquiring low RCS(Radar Cross Signature) ships.
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Su_37 said:
My dear friend i don;t think india need Mig 29, Jagur, sea Harrer and SU 30.
Indian ships are armed with a BARAK Anti -Anti Ship Missile , which has 100% accuracy again subsonic missiles. Which can also stop C-802K or Harpoon missiles or any.
Indian will have Supersonic 300km range Brahmos Supersonic Anti ship missile which only India and Russia have and it is unstopable. It can also be launched from Air , Land and Ship. Will be come into action in 2004[/quote]
My dearest friend, the Barak missile which India tested were failed to find their target. The two missiles were fired against a russian missile but they failed to destroy the missile.
Here is the complete info.
http://www.indianexpress.com/full_story.php?content_id=35867
Now what do u say about its accuracy ???
Pakistan should be focussing on EW and C4i. Then it should be emphasising Submarine capability.
I am not going to get into a chest beating contest about India and Pakistan as I have friends and military work colleagues in both countries. I have seen both militaries train, and I have dealt with some of the new technologies that both countries are going to employ.
I am giving a tactical opinion only.
I am not going to get into a chest beating contest about India and Pakistan as I have friends and military work colleagues in both countries. I have seen both militaries train, and I have dealt with some of the new technologies that both countries are going to employ.
I am giving a tactical opinion only.
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To whoever said a certain air defence system is 100% accurate, I think you should stop believing everything you read. No weapon system is perfect, not Russian, American, Chinese, French, Indian or Pakistani. It may be very good, but almost certainly will have some flaw. Every design after all is a compromise of some sort. Nothing can excel in every possible situation. Cheers.
Well done PN 4 the building. Now we shud start joint ventures in designing subs also with china the wasy we did it with the JF-17
Stealth on a surface ship will only work to a certain point.
Australian Orions have been able to identify people floating in the ocean due to a temperature variation of the body against the water. F111's (and certainly the RF111's) can do the same by using PAVETAC.
The LADS system will also pick up surface ships.
Any airborne system like AWACs, Hawkeyes or Rivet Joint will also identify and pick out a ship on the ocean.
Personally I think that the effort spent on trying to mask a surface vessel would be better spent on subs.
Where it is useful is when the stealth vessel is againsy an unsophisticated opfor with a poor detection suite.
Australian Orions have been able to identify people floating in the ocean due to a temperature variation of the body against the water. F111's (and certainly the RF111's) can do the same by using PAVETAC.
The LADS system will also pick up surface ships.
Any airborne system like AWACs, Hawkeyes or Rivet Joint will also identify and pick out a ship on the ocean.
Personally I think that the effort spent on trying to mask a surface vessel would be better spent on subs.
Where it is useful is when the stealth vessel is againsy an unsophisticated opfor with a poor detection suite.