Russian Air Force News & Discussion

Feanor

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So from which i undrrstand, the production of the 20 normal Su-34 from the contract of 8 june will be done before the production of the order of 76 Su-34M.
This appears to be the plan. The Su-34M appears to be delayed. Stopping and restarting production is expensive, disruptive, and the VVS needs more Su-34s, the sooner the better. They still have about a hundred Su-24Ms flying around, and there's a good chance that some Su-34s will go to the AVMF for maritime strike roles.
 

Feanor

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Is there any news about Su-57? It seems the crash towards the end of last year really set it back.
The plans were originally were to hand over the first aircraft at the end of last year, the second this year, and 2 more in 2021, with another 76 to follow. The first 4 would probably go to GLITs, and the next 4 to the TsBP in Lipetsk. So, best case scenario, with current plans, the first squadron will see IOC in ~2023. It's too soon to tell whether this timetable has been set back significantly, a little, or not at all.
 

Mochachu

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The plans were originally were to hand over the first aircraft at the end of last year, the second this year, and 2 more in 2021, with another 76 to follow. The first 4 would probably go to GLITs, and the next 4 to the TsBP in Lipetsk. So, best case scenario, with current plans, the first squadron will see IOC in ~2023. It's too soon to tell whether this timetable has been set back significantly, a little, or not at all.
The COVID situation doesn't help either. Su-57 delivery is probably gonna be delayed by years at the very least.
 

Feanor

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The COVID situation doesn't help either. Su-57 delivery is probably gonna be delayed by years at the very least.
If years are the least, what is the most? Decades? I suspect we may see the program pushed back a year, give or take. Production plans for 2020-2022 were modest to begin with, so I don't see why it wouldn't be possible to complete them. If we do see a delay beyond that I suspect it will have less to do with the crash or COVID and more to do with the MoD once again adjusting requirements or asking for more stuff to be integrated/added.
 

Feanor

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Update.

A new hypersonic missile, unrelated to the X-32, is undergoing trials on the Tu-22M3, meant eventually for the Tu-22M3M. It's possible that this is an airlaunched Tsirkon. Trials of the X-32 are also continuing.


Some footage of the Su-57 undergoing trials with weapons on external mounts.


A drawing suggesting how the Su-57 might carry cruise missiles internally.


Work is continuing on the second phase of the Su-57 development, with trials to begin summer of 2022.


The first PAK-DA prototype is under construction. It remains to be seen how this program goes.


The Il-76MD-90A contract has been re-negotiated. The contract was plagued with troubles from the get go. It started as one contract for 41 aircraft, later brought down to 39, at the same total price. So far 6 have been delivered, and only 7 more will be delivered under the old terms, with 14 more under new terms. This brings total numbers down to 27 aircraft. The VVS doesn't really want the type too much, as there are plenty of Il-76 airframes in storage.


An upgraded L-39 has been delivered to the VVS. This raises questions about future plans. YAK-130 production has gone on at a good pace, and though the type is expensive, over 100 have been bought, and more are contracted. It's unclear why they would want to retain the L-39.


New contracts have been signed for continued deliveries of the S-350 and S-400, 3 regiments of S-400s and 4 "systems" (btlns) of S-350s (so ~2 regiments).


Also a contract for the first pair of Ka-52Ms, and their trials.


Some information on the new LMUR guided missiles, used on the Mi-28N. The type, also known as Izdelie 305, is expected to be used by both the Mi-28N and the Ka-52M, with trials on the Ka-52M to begin in 2022, after the prototypes are built.


The Altair-U heavy UAV flying with dummy bombs.


There was earlier information the Su-30SM will get an engine standardized with the Su-35S, now there is information that a standardized Flanker engine is being developed to fit on all Flankers, though there is some question as to how well it will work between the Su-35 and the older aircraft.

 

Sandhi Yudha

Well-Known Member
Update.

A new hypersonic missile, unrelated to the X-32, is undergoing trials on the Tu-22M3, meant eventually for the Tu-22M3M. It's possible that this is an airlaunched Tsirkon. Trials of the X-32 are also continuing.


Some footage of the Su-57 undergoing trials with weapons on external mounts.


A drawing suggesting how the Su-57 might carry cruise missiles internally.


Work is continuing on the second phase of the Su-57 development, with trials to begin summer of 2022.


The first PAK-DA prototype is under construction. It remains to be seen how this program goes.


The Il-76MD-90A contract has been re-negotiated. The contract was plagued with troubles from the get go. It started as one contract for 41 aircraft, later brought down to 39, at the same total price. So far 6 have been delivered, and only 7 more will be delivered under the old terms, with 14 more under new terms. This brings total numbers down to 27 aircraft. The VVS doesn't really want the type too much, as there are plenty of Il-76 airframes in storage.


An upgraded L-39 has been delivered to the VVS. This raises questions about future plans. YAK-130 production has gone on at a good pace, and though the type is expensive, over 100 have been bought, and more are contracted. It's unclear why they would want to retain the L-39.


New contracts have been signed for continued deliveries of the S-350 and S-400, 3 regiments of S-400s and 4 "systems" (btlns) of S-350s (so ~2 regiments).


Also a contract for the first pair of Ka-52Ms, and their trials.


Some information on the new LMUR guided missiles, used on the Mi-28N. The type, also known as Izdelie 305, is expected to be used by both the Mi-28N and the Ka-52M, with trials on the Ka-52M to begin in 2022, after the prototypes are built.


The Altair-U heavy UAV flying with dummy bombs.


There was earlier information the Su-30SM will get an engine standardized with the Su-35S, now there is information that a standardized Flanker engine is being developed to fit on all Flankers, though there is some question as to how well it will work between the Su-35 and the older aircraft.

In 2017 we have already seen a Su-57 prototype performing a 3200 km ferry flight.
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Are these PTB-2000 drop/external fuel tanks? Information about Russian external fuel tanks is almost not available on the internet.
 
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