Royal Netherlands Navy

H_K

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Here’s the official spec sheet, which apparently was shared by Naval Group with various defence media outlets but then pulled. So I can’t share a link as the original posts have been deleted, but it still lives in Google image search… for now.

 

Inverno

New Member
I wonder if France have learned from their Australian experience. There are probably two major reasons that Australia cancelled the Attack class. One is that they prefered nuclear but the cost blowouts and delays didn't help the French cause.
Looks like some kind of Dutch experience may be next:

"It is not possible for the Netherlands to independently investigate the quotation from the French shipyard Naval Group. This was a requirement from Defense, but according to French law no foreign audit agency is allowed to investigate French tenders. Defense adjusted the requirement during the tender, without informing the House of Representatives or the other yards. In theory, Naval Group can therefore do whatever they want with the price, without Dutch control. This is evident from research by Marineschips.nl in collaboration with de Volkskrant ." [Google translation]

Marineschepen.nl: Defense adjusted requirements to keep the French shipyard on board
 

Sandhi Yudha

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Looks like some kind of Dutch experience may be next:

"It is not possible for the Netherlands to independently investigate the quotation from the French shipyard Naval Group. This was a requirement from Defense, but according to French law no foreign audit agency is allowed to investigate French tenders. Defense adjusted the requirement during the tender, without informing the House of Representatives or the other yards. In theory, Naval Group can therefore do whatever they want with the price, without Dutch control. This is evident from research by Marineschips.nl in collaboration with de Volkskrant ." [Google translation]

Marineschepen.nl: Defense adjusted requirements to keep the French shipyard on board
Thank you for sharing.
If the price of DCNS' offer was low because of subsidie from the French government, and the price stay low, then it is not really a disaster.
But if DCNS later can change/increase the price as much as they want, and the Dutch government can not control and check the reason, then we have a problem.
It is just weird that Defensie change it's own rules and procedures just to satisfy/give an advantage to one contestant, and also in a silent way. It almost smells like corruption is involved in it.
 

Redlands18

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Another great video from Xavier at Naval News, with an interview with Captain Andre van der Kemp on the future of the Dutch Navy. He talks about plans to replace the entire fleet bar 1 ship over the next 15 or so years. Announcing that a project has just commenced to replace the 4 LCF (de seven Provincien class) Frigates with a new larger vessel, also talks about replacing the 2 LPDs and 4 Holland class OPVs with 6 ships of a common design.
Also talks about a new concept called MICAN based on using containerised systems on 2 commercial ships with low manning.

Talks about adding Tomahawks to the LCF, LCF replacement as well the new SSKs, with the De Ruyter to travel to San Diego late this year for first of class firing.
 
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