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[John Fedup]

Our North, Strong and Free: A Renewed Vision for Canada’s Defence - Canada.ca

A Renewed Vision for Canada’s Defence

www.canada.ca

From page 25

"To detect and manage airborne threats, we will
acquire airborne early warning aircraft. These
aircraft detect aircraft and missiles at long ranges in
real time and from much further away than groundbased
radars, and then manage the battle space in
response to a threat."

I'm not sure what they are referring to here. Is this in reference to the announced purchase of the MQ-9B SkyGuardian or a future requisition of something like the E-7 Wedgetail?

E-7 is likely too expensive for the current government. More likely is a Bombardier/Saab GlobalEye, an offering to Bombardier after losing the maritime patrol deal to the P-8.

 

[Redlands18]

E-7 is likely too expensive for the current government. More likely is a Bombardier/Saab GlobalEye, an offering to Bombardier after losing the maritime patrol deal to the P-8.

And yet all the advantages of operating the same aircraft as its NORAD, NATO and 5Eye partners would make the E-7 cheaper in the long run as well as being easier to integrate. They would also be able to get it as an FMS deal, added to the USAF order. Maybe commonsense will prevail.

 

[John Fedup]

And yet all the advantages of operating the same aircraft as its NORAD, NATO and 5Eye partners would make the E-7 cheaper in the long run as well as being easier to integrate. They would also be able to get it as an FMS deal, added to the USAF order. Maybe commonsense will prevail.

There was no realistic alternative to the P-8 but the GlobalEye offers reasonable capabilities, has significant Canadian content and a larger number could be acquired compared to E-7. In the end, it will be dependent on the cost capability ratio. An aggressive E-7 price for Canada will be a US/Australia/Boeing decision.

 

[John Fedup]

The amount of money for airborne early warning aircraft is abount $300 million according to this CTV link, not enough for a single E-7. Also 18 billion for utility helicopters to replace Griffons...WTF! Likely a Bell model build in Quebec with insertable VIP modules for pollies.

Canada's new defence spending explained | CTV News

 

[Redlands18]

The amount of money for airborne early warning aircraft is abount $300 million according to this CTV link, not enough for a single E-7. Also 18 billion for utility helicopters to replace Griffons...WTF! Likely a Bell model build in Quebec with insertable VIP modules for pollies.

Canada's new defence spending explained | CTV News

$300m for AEW, what someone in a hot air balloon gondola with a pair of binoculars?.

 

[John Fedup]

$300m for AEW, what someone in a hot air balloon gondola with a pair of binoculars?.

Probably but only the balloon is funded, the binocular requirement will have to be “explored”.

 

[OldTex]

Also 18 billion for utility helicopters to replace Griffons...WTF! Likely a Bell model build in Quebec with insertable VIP modules for pollies.

Even allowing for the reported C$18billion being the whole-of-life cost, the reported funding would buy a hell of a lot of helicopters.
Especially when there are purchases being reported (Greece for 35 UH-60M) for almost US$2billion and that quoted price seems to cover everything that opens and shuts.