iambuzzard
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Sammy,
I don't think the Ghost Bats' wings will be very effective underwater. Lol. The Ghost Shark however!!!!!
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I don't think the Ghost Bats' wings will be very effective underwater. Lol. The Ghost Shark however!!!!!
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Yea yea. I part time as dyslexic. These two names frequently get me.
iambuzzard
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Sammy, you funny. If you get to Melbourne look me up at Mecha Plus.
Ghost shark top speed has been reported as 7 knots ,perhaps stationed in some chokepoint well outside a naval harbour and able to identify an accoustic signature and able to act on that ,could require mine clearance type sonars as escorts unless a case of "Damn the torpedoes full speed ahead" per American civil war action
I read this article and wondered if such a system could be attached to a number of Ghost Sharks acting in areas the A.D.F wanted to monitor
ukdefencejournal.org.uk
British robot sailboats test submarine picket line
Six British robotic sailboats are testing a distributed acoustic picket line at REPMUS26, using hydrophones to detect and track underwater targets across a wide area.
ukdefencejournal.org.uk
I suspect this is what our fleet of Bluebottle drones is already doing. Amongst other things. The IIP said that it has undersea surveilance capabilities.I read this article and wondered if such a system could be attached to a number of Ghost Sharks acting in areas the A.D.F wanted to monitor
British robot sailboats test submarine picket line
Six British robotic sailboats are testing a distributed acoustic picket line at REPMUS26, using hydrophones to detect and track underwater targets across a wide area.
I would have thought that the ghost shark is or has been tested with some form of towed array, and it would come fitted with an inbuilt nose hydrophone as standard, along with an active sonar.
Anduril have the sea floor mounted hydrophone that can be deployed from their drones, it will be interesting to see if this is a contender for the underwater range systsms included in the IIP. It seems to be a nice match.
The media tends to focus on the weapons payload for any platform, however the sensor package is far more useful. One missile, torpedo or bullet targeted well, is far more effective that a dozen fired from the hip.
iambuzzard
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Well said, Sammy. That's what snipers are for. Surgical strikes. If we don't have the numbers we have to use our capabilities better than the other guy.
Then if this web of sensors detected something it could relay to a Poseidon carrying sonar bouys and torpedoes playing the spider
iambuzzard
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Force multiplication without having to send a frigate or destroyer into harm's way.
These things basically sound like sonar bouys with the capability to maintain position and remain active for indefinately (until destroyed by weather conditions) due to having the ability to recharge from solar and presumably wind.I read this article and wondered if such a system could be attached to a number of Ghost Sharks acting in areas the A.D.F wanted to monitor
British robot sailboats test submarine picket line
Six British robotic sailboats are testing a distributed acoustic picket line at REPMUS26, using hydrophones to detect and track underwater targets across a wide area.
Not going to have anywhere near the sensitivity of even a basic towed array at a 50kg all up weight, so the question is then how many of them do you need in an array to generate a realistic capability to detect a modern submarine?
Can they be air dropped into an area? Because if released from a central location they aren't going to move into position real quickly.
Blue bottle is a different proposition, its literally an uncrewed Yacht.
iambuzzard
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That's an interesting thought.
The Capes and Arafuras can carry multiple Speartooth uuvs. Ghost Sharks are very heavy, so LHDs, LPDs, Hunters and potentially LCH with its 25t crane.
Going Boeing
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Rather than tying up Amphibious capacity with this role, it would be feasible for support vessels such as ADV Guidance to carry a number of Ghost Sharks on the Cargo deck and use the heavy lift crane to deploy them. Ghost Shark range is reported to be sufficient to allow deployment well away from the intended area of operation.
ADV Guidance - Wikipedia
It "may" be feasible for the Hunters and other Type 26 derivations to deploy Ghost Sharks.
The way of the future is for every major combatant to have a multi mission deck or decks, a large flight deck and hangar, and multiple secondary and tertiary weapon / ordinance stations.
Was thinking if you had a completely empty lower heavy vehicle deck, you might be able to have a lot of heavy specialized flat-bed sort of 'boat trailers' for Ghost Sharks and/or Speartooths, which with the appropriate HX2-series truck you could just back them in on either side of that divider like at an everyday boat ramp. Hoping for discussion why that is or is not a good idea.
Multiple? Really? Got to be in place of the 2 RHIB's though?
1 rhib is swapped out for 1 Speartooth, looks to be the larger 12m uuv too.
Arafura takes 2x20fts on the flight deck, so potentially 4 total in 2 containers or maybe 6 without on some sort of rack system.
iambuzzard
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A bit of food for thought. Contract for more Arafuras with the specific purpose as mother ships to get them into theatre to launch the UUVs. Only give them a decent gun for some sort of self defence. They would be a force multiplier and it would allow us to optimise the Tier 1 and 2 hulls for war fighting. Carrying around Ghost Shark and Speartooth will degrade that ability.