Royal Australian Navy Discussions and Updates 2.0
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When is a new vessel actually ready for constructive service?
Hunters , Mogami, SSNs
Look at these time frames and we get a true sense of our fleet’s capabilities today and our capability in transition for the decade ahead.
Hence attention to the fleet we have, not dreams of a distant future.
Cheers S
Agree
When is a new vessel actually ready for constructive service?
Hunters , Mogami, SSNs
Look at these time frames and we get a true sense of our fleet’s capabilities today and our capability in transition for the decade ahead.
Hence attention to the fleet we have, not dreams of a distant future.
Cheers S
Maybe. A bex and a lie down.
I just think we may want to get our ducks lined up as best as we can before the 2028 US election. Not that it is itself the critical juncture, but several things are coalescing at the same time. At that time, getting anything coherent out of the US is unlikely. For a number of reasons anything being built after 2028 may become much harder and slower, even in country. I guess my vignette is, what would we do if we absolutely knew that the end of 2028 global trade ceases, there is huge global disorder and America withdraws from Asia. Remove the emotion and the scepticism and treat it just like a thinktank style proposition.
I am also not so worried about range of any later Arafura. We would have 4-6 long range Arafura.
But as we know. Changing from building one type of ship to another, takes time. We are already 6 deep into the Arafuras, We are at the pointy end of efficiency and productivity. The cost of 2 isn't the same as the cost of the first 2. It isn't about weapons either.
A 10m size push can do wonders for a platform, compare the Flight 1 F110 and Flight 2 110. for a 5m size increase.
One of the things about the Arafuras, if we do over build, I think they would be a relatively easy ship to hand off to one of our larger friendly neighbours. This is not some ultra complex destroyer covered in ITAR. If we wanted to gift it to Fiji or PNG or Timor or Philippines or Brunei, that would be possible. Perhaps some costs would fall to us at least in part, but manning etc is possible.
Looks like Japan will have 4 Sakura class OPVs in service before we have 3 Arafuras.
2 years to build and put into service 4 95m 1,950t (Sakura)OPVs.
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9 years before we see 4 80m 1,650t (Arafura)OPVs in service and 5x the cost.
Sakura class Sea trials (also has a 30mm MG from the beginning)
2 years to build and put into service 4 95m 1,950t (Sakura)OPVs.
vs
9 years before we see 4 80m 1,650t (Arafura)OPVs in service and 5x the cost.
Sakura class Sea trials (also has a 30mm MG from the beginning)