Pictures of India's Paras In training ( From Regt/MOD Websites)

The Watcher

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Thats what I was wondering Indus. Looks like Mr. PJ10 needs to write more than just a one liner to explain his point. You should see his reply after mine. :roll
 

kronicFever

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excuse me?
That is actually true. ONe of the Gurkha "Ethos" Is to never fight a hindu nation. Well More to the point that the Gurkha is Hindu himself . It also has to do with a deal the INdian Govt , British Govt and the Gurkhas Signed back in the day when they started being recruited. Since its a Deal the Gurkha cant go back on his word.


Anyways here is a great Article on the Recent Indo-US Joint Special Forces Excersies in Mizoram ( Counter Insurgence and Jungle Warfare School).
The Participants were Members of the 8th SFG US ARMY and 21 Para-Cdo Special Forces


At a remote jungle hideout in Northeast India, “mock terrorists†hold five “role-play†civilian hostages. Combined Indian and U.S. Special Operations Forces (SOF) have formed a Joint Action Group (JAG) to raid the mock terrorist camp, rescue the hostages, and capture the terrorist leader.

The terrorists have a heavily protected hideout and local security patrols. The Indian-U.S. JAG, however, has credible intelligence on terrorist operational procedures and the hideout’s layout. After boarding Indian Mi-17 helicopters, a JAG reconnaissance and strike team infiltrates the operational area and moves undetected toward the terrorist hideout, passing stealthily through mosquito and leech infested swamps, steep hills, and muddy terrain and crossing numerous streams and rivers. Despite the rugged terrain and hot humid weather, the JAG team reaches the terrorist hideout, confirms the target layout, rescues the civilian hostages, and captures the terrorist leader. The JAG exfiltrates the area on an Indian Mi-17 helicopter, returns civilian hostages to friendly control, and turns the former terrorist leader over to a notional law enforcement agency.




A mock terrorist jungle hideout in Mizoram, India.



Combined Indian and U.S. Army Special Forces teams conduct an Indian fast roping technique, called “slithering,â€

Indian and U.S. SOF conducted the above training scenario and related training activities during BALANCE IROQUOIS 2003-01, a Joint Combined Exchange Training (JCET) Event. Throughout this event, members of the Indian Army’s 21st Parachute (Special Forces) Battalion and U.S. Army Special Forces soldiers lived, worked, and trained together at India’s Counter Insurgency Jungle Warfare School (CIJWS) at Vairengte, Mizoram. The CIJWS Commandant, Brigadier Amrit Kapur, supervised the JCET training event.

Indian and U.S. SOF training activities during BALANCE IROQUOIS 2003-01 ranged from advanced marksmanship and various infiltration/exfiltration techniques to jungle survival and counterinsurgency techniques. Principal training scenarios included cross-country movement in jungle terrain, counterinsurgency operations in rural and semi-urban terrain, and operations against a defended enemy base camp. Before any of these activities, participants planned their combined mission, exchanging ideas and time-proven operational techniques while developing effective tactical plans. During many of these activities, Indian and U.S. soldiers shared equipment, such as night vision goggles, rifles, and jungle boots, providing opportunities to evaluate each other’s field gear


Joint Indo-US SF Team Boarding an Mi-17




Indian and American SF Operators waiting to board a Chopper



Both forces used India’s fast-rope technique called “slithering.†The Indian Army uses protective gloves with three slim ropes instead of one thick rope used in the U.S. military’s fast rope method. Under the watchful eyes of their Indian counterparts, U.S. Special Forces soldiers quickly mastered the efficient “slithering†technique, gaining valuable experience and learning new methods.



Inside an M-17


Other JCET events will occur in the years ahead, creating opportunities for Indian and U.S. military personnel to work together and build upon previous success. Indian and U.S. SOF will conduct the next BALANCE IROQUOIS 2003-02 JCET in Guam.


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RajKhalsa

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Indus said:
The Watcher said:
PJ-10 BrahMos said:
do you know that a gurkha soilder will not fight against a hindu nation
excuse me?

Yes, obviously.. Why would they fight against their own religion. Gurkhas are Hindus.

Hmm I didn't know that before. I thought they were Buddhists

But now that I did some quick research on the net, yeah, they are Hindus. Their war cry is: "Jai Mahakali, Ayo Gurkhali" or "Hail Goddess Kali, Here Come the Gurkhas" which is probably the coolest battle cry :D
 

santpaul

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what do u mean hindu nation it's nation of muslims,sikhs,and many others.also gurkhasoldiers are not all hindus u know.
 

mysterious

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I still have NO idea how India has Gurkhas!!! From the dozen military history books that I've read; the REAL GURKHAS are from Nepal (who even fought alongside the British against the Indian mutiny of 1857) and 'not' India. Which 'version' does India have? "Blended"? ;)
 

srirangan

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They are a tribe. We have gurkha's, nepal has them, and it should really surprise you to know that even the current british army has a gurkha regiment.
 

Pathfinder-X

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The Gurkha's are not doubt vicious warriors, one of the most self-displined people in the world. The Gurkha Regiment of Britain is one of the most elite light infantry force in the world. But I thought they live in Nepal and are buddist??? :?
 

mysterious

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Yeah! So thats what I'm saying. They are 'originally' from Nepal - a Nepali tribe. Their mixing with other tribes and stuff like that in India may have given birth to another type of people but obviously they inherited the Gurkha instincts. Same goes for the British regiment if you ask me 'cuz a lot of guys in that regiment maybe Nepali descent UK citizens.
 

srirangan

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No shit. India and Britain got the Gurkha tribesmen in their armies, via a deal that was brokered way early in the 1900's.
 

RajKhalsa

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The Gorkhas live in the mountain ares of Nepal and neighboring states of India. They speak a dialect of Rajasthani and are said to be desended from Rajputs. Their population in Nepal is 11 million and comprise 50% of Nepal's population, and there are 10 million who are Indian.

Here's a good article on Gurkhas serving in Singapore. Its Singapore-centric, but provides a good introduction to the Gurkhas and their history and customs:

Hindu Warriors Guard Singapore From Terror
(Reuters) 18 April 2002
by Maria Golovnina

These days, Nepalese not Singaporeans guard some of the city's most sensitive sites. Gurkha soldiers, widely regarded as the most fearsome fighters in the world, are on the front line in the city-state as Singapore clamps down on Islamic militancy in the wake of the September 11 attacks on the United States. The Hindu warriors, raised in the foothills of the Himalayas and recruited by the Singapore police, have seldom been in the public eye here although their contingent has been based on the wealthy island for more than 50 years.

In the 1950s and 1960s, Gurkhas helped quell racial riots, strikes and trades union disputes in Singapore and won praise for their ability to bring calm and be impartial in any dispute.

Such turbulent times are long gone in Singapore but with tension high in the wake of the September attacks and the discovery of a plot to attack targets in Singapore, the Gurkhas are replacing local policemen at some of Singapore's most sensitive buildings.

These include the U.S. embassy and the American Club both the target of a foiled bombing plot by a regional Islamic group as well as the huge Jurong island petrochemical complex and Changi international airport.

"I think it's right to say that the Gurkhas, as part of the Singapore Police Force, have become more important here after September 11," said Commander Bruce M. Niven, head of the Gurkha Contingent in Singapore.

The Gurkhas' main strength is their impartiality in the multiracial city-state of four million people.

"In the local context, impartiality is one of their unique attributes," Niven said.

"Not being influenced by the local scene is part of their concept in Singapore. They just don't get emotionally involved in anything they may get caught up in."

It is the absence of political or religious roots in Singapore that has granted the soldiers a reputation of utmost objectivity -- key to success in Singapore which is inhabited by ethnic Chinese, Malay and Indian communities.

On A Knife Edge

The Gurkha Contingent was officially created in Singapore in 1949 from ex-British Army Gurkhas.

The city state has expanded the Contingent in the past few years according to a source with knowledge of the Gurkhas, but the events of September 11 could result in further increases.

"Before, you just never saw them on the streets (of Singapore)," said the source, who did not want to be identified.

"But the government is pushing them more into the public domain, which is a very interesting phenomenon."

The recent arrests of Islamic militants suspected of plotting bomb attacks have cast a shadow over the security-conscious island republic.

"We are a police force and we respond to what our republic requires of us in times of peace or in time of tension in the world," Niven said.

"We are unique here in the sense that our Gurkhas are police officers... While a soldier is perhaps out there to kill people, Gurkhas here are essentially present to maintain the peace, and protect people and property."

Yet, a Gurkha cop is still a Gurkha. According to legend, once his kukri dagger has been drawn in battle, it must "taste blood". If it has not, its master has to cut himself before returning it to its sheath.

Descended from the Rajputs tribes of North India, Gurkhas conquered the small Nepali region of Gorkha after being forced out from India in the early 16th century. Settling down in their new home, the called themselves Gurkhas.

A City in a City

From there, Gurkhas have travelled widely, serving the British empire in many parts of Asia but particularly Singapore and Hong Kong.

The Gurkha Cantonment in Singapore is like another world, with its own shops, schools and playgrounds.

"This is a small township, and I am like a mayor," Niven said.

Stationed in Singapore on a temporary mission, the Gurkhas do not sink deep roots into the city's soil. They are not allowed to.

The principle of impartiality forbids them to marry Singaporean women.

Most end up returning home to their villages in the hills where most people grow rice and wheat.

So far only two or three of them have broken the tradition and chosen to stay in Singapore instead of returning to Nepal, one of the world's poorest countries and torn by a six-year-old Maoist rebellion that has claimed some 3,500 lives.

Niven said they are mainly recruited from the Hindu and Buddhist villages and begin their careers at the age of 18 to 22.
 

RajKhalsa

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