The chinees Type-99 has ERA blocks on the frontal side of its turret and Leo-2 - hasnt. There is laminated passive armor. It is two different method of defence. If you say Type-99 has some degree of conformity with T-80 apgrades, I should agree more with you. But why Leo-2??? It has very superficial analogy with Type-99.
Pakistan to transfer composite armor technology to Turkey.
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No not like the T-80. The Leopard-2A5/A6 has like this carracter: < armor slope and the T-80 has a rounded shaped spaced armor with fiber-glass and boron-di-carbonate plating in the center. You know that the T-80 is a upgraded version of the T-64 with only spaced armor and the space filled with foam.
The T-98G or T-99 has also the armor shaped in < (or if you are right handed, > but it is not shaped like the Challenger-2 or Abrams sloping like /.)
Look to this site of the Type-98G / 99
http://www.sinodefence.com/army/tank/type99.asp
The T-98G or T-99 has also the armor shaped in < (or if you are right handed, > but it is not shaped like the Challenger-2 or Abrams sloping like /.)
Look to this site of the Type-98G / 99
http://www.sinodefence.com/army/tank/type99.asp
That that you think it is 'armor shaped like in Leo-2' - it is ERA blocks on the turret frontal side . Look the link, that you brought: "On the Type 99 there is a additional reinforcement to the turret frontal and lateral armour with externally mounted add-on armour modules and explosive reaction armour (ERA) plates" (citation).Soner1980 said:
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yes I had read that on the sinodefence that the ZTZ-99 has Leopard-2A5 style up-armoring with ERA. This does not mean that this is the same armor of the Leopard but the shape is also a V shape like on the Leo-2A5. We all know that western MBT does not use ERA. Only USMC M60's had used it in the Gulf War in 1991.
wat u ppl think about
Dont u ppl think ??
Anit tank system like anti tank Guns, rockets n missiles are winning against tanks and isnt it better to have anit tnak missiles more instead of MBT coz some countires are decreasing the number of MBT.
like india have NAG. anti tank missile.
Dont u ppl think ??
Anit tank system like anti tank Guns, rockets n missiles are winning against tanks and isnt it better to have anit tnak missiles more instead of MBT coz some countires are decreasing the number of MBT.
like india have NAG. anti tank missile.
Not again...
Yeah, for sure, modern ATGMs and APFSDS rounds may destroy a modern MBT.
But just think about what else could kill you on a modern battlefield if you would not use a tank.
Not to talk of speed, fire volume, armor piercing capabilities, sensors, effectivness against active protection systems,...
Yeah, for sure, modern ATGMs and APFSDS rounds may destroy a modern MBT.
But just think about what else could kill you on a modern battlefield if you would not use a tank.
Not to talk of speed, fire volume, armor piercing capabilities, sensors, effectivness against active protection systems,...
Just a hint at composite armour R&D in pakistan since 2002....
ADVANCE ARMOUR SYSTEMS RESEARCH AND DEVELOPMENT, INFORMATION AND INTEGRATION CENTRE (AARDIC)
R&D is a back bone of any progressive and dynamic organization. HIT had been
making efforts for over a decade for achieving a sound research oriented out fit which would cater for the desired indigenization through a well organized setup. Keeping said R&D requirements of HIT, AARDIC was established as a centre of advanced systems to handle challenges of manufacturing, rebuild and applied R&D.
The project encompasses following engineering support and development facilities:-
Research, develop, rebuild and integrate advance armour systems.
Support indigenous development/production of high tech systems.
Implement deletion of assemblies and stand alone system through
R&D and reverse engineering with in house manufacture and in collaboration with local/foreign industrial setup.
State of the art research and development facilities available with AARDIC to
accomplish assigned tasks are:-
Design Lab
Rapid Prototype Lab
Electronics (Fire Control System/Gun Control System) lab
Printed Circuit Board Lab
Metrology Lab
Materials Lab
Metal Casting Lab
Data, Documents and Information Cell
Stand alone systems lab
Advance Systems Rebuild Factory (ASRF)
More to come..
ADVANCE ARMOUR SYSTEMS RESEARCH AND DEVELOPMENT, INFORMATION AND INTEGRATION CENTRE (AARDIC)
R&D is a back bone of any progressive and dynamic organization. HIT had been
making efforts for over a decade for achieving a sound research oriented out fit which would cater for the desired indigenization through a well organized setup. Keeping said R&D requirements of HIT, AARDIC was established as a centre of advanced systems to handle challenges of manufacturing, rebuild and applied R&D.
The project encompasses following engineering support and development facilities:-
Research, develop, rebuild and integrate advance armour systems.
Support indigenous development/production of high tech systems.
Implement deletion of assemblies and stand alone system through
R&D and reverse engineering with in house manufacture and in collaboration with local/foreign industrial setup.
State of the art research and development facilities available with AARDIC to
accomplish assigned tasks are:-
Design Lab
Rapid Prototype Lab
Electronics (Fire Control System/Gun Control System) lab
Printed Circuit Board Lab
Metrology Lab
Materials Lab
Metal Casting Lab
Data, Documents and Information Cell
Stand alone systems lab
Advance Systems Rebuild Factory (ASRF)
More to come..
they do have R&D for engine/ transmission manufacturing going on but it is more of reverse engineering stuff, e.g. is Al Zarrar's 730 HP engine, type59/69 series engines. No OEM engine as far as i know. Ukrainian engines (6td-F 1200 HP, 6td-1000 HP) both rebuild, up graded and overhauled in house at HIT.
730hp- that's about half of what a typical MBT has these days. I guess they'll need 2 of those then!
What's the main challenge in putting together a 1500hp(or 2khp) engine by an entity like HIT, I mean all the critical components of a diesel engine could be bought separately. There's no need to reverse engineer any critical component.
Bolting all these together in inline-6 or v-10 could be tricky though... is that the problem?
What's the main challenge in putting together a 1500hp(or 2khp) engine by an entity like HIT, I mean all the critical components of a diesel engine could be bought separately. There's no need to reverse engineer any critical component.
Bolting all these together in inline-6 or v-10 could be tricky though... is that the problem?
730hp is for type-59MII and Al-Zarrar upgrades, we make them in house at HIT which is based on Chinese technology, all components of these engines are now made by indigenous factories usually HIT subsidiaries. For 6tdf/6tdf-2 series, we prefer to buy them from Ukraine off the board.