Pakistan Nuclear & Missile Development and News

A

Aliph Ahmed

Banned Member
Pakistan successfully test- fires Ghaznavi Hataf-III

Updated at: 1035 PST, Wednesday, February 13, 2008

Islamabad, January 25: Pakistan successfully test-fired a 700-km range Shaheen-1 (Hatf-IV) Medium Range Ballistic Missile.
Pakistan successfully test-fires BM Ghaznavi Hataf-III
ISLAMABAD: Pakistan successfully test-fired a medium range Ballistic Missile (BM) Ghaznavi Hataf-III, which was conducted by the Pakistan Army Strategic Force Command.
Caretaker Prime Minister, Mohammadmian Soomro, Chief of the Army Staff, General Ashfaq Parvez Kiyani, senior military officers and scientists were also present on this occasion.
Hataf-III Ghaznavi, a medium range ballistic missile could hit its target at 290-kilometre and it possesses the capacity to carry nuclear weapons and warheads.
President, Prime Minister and Chief of the Army Staff have felicitated the Pak Army for this successful missile test.

http://www.thenews.com.pk/updates.asp?id=37373
 
A

Aliph Ahmed

Banned Member
I had to check the date twice to make sure that this thread was really out of date. I tried my best to update it.

Seems like Pakistan's production of missiles is in full swing and more batches of Ghauri and Ghaznavi were inducted.

Everytime a batch is inducted, Army picks one missile at random and fires it to certify the others as a quality control measure.
 
M

mysterious

New Member
Aliph, this thread becomes active as & when newer developments take place. If you're trying to compare this thread with the one on Indian missiles, well ppl dont really copy-paste news here & call it a discussion.

Thanks for the articles you have provided but it would be appreciated if you can provided your own thoughts on them as well.

Yes Pakistan has carried out at least half a dozen missile tests in the past fortnight or so but this is nothing new as the continuing testing of parameters to be validated as well as maintainance of operational readiness warrants such tests.

What I've been more interested in finding out is what similarities, if any, does Pakistan's Ra'ad ALCM has with regards to Storm Shadow.
 
B

BilalK

New Member
IMO the South African MUPSOW & Torgos seem boxier than Ra'ad. However Turkey and Pakistan did sign a recent agreement which included turbojet technology, aircraft stealth and precision-guided systems...we might see a true Storm Shadow/Taurus equivalent.
 
N

niteshkjain

New Member
Link: http://www.rediff.com/news/2008/apr/14pak.htm

US seeks direct access to Pakistan's N-arsenal
April 14, 2008 12:43 IST
Amid Western concerns about the safety of Pakistan's nuclear aresenal, the United States has sought direct access to the body controlling the country's nuclear assets for an American official to be posted at its embassy in Islamabad.

The US State Department sent a proposal to the Pakistan government after a set of 11 demands dispatched earlier by Washington to Islamabad regarding the deployment of American military personnel in the country, were refused by Pakistani authorities.

The latest request from Washington had suggested that the official who would be permanently posted in the US embassy in Islamabad to deal with nuclear issues should have direct access to the National Command Authority Secretariat, The News reported on Monday.

The earlier request had wanted American citizens sent by the US government to be treated above Pakistan's national law.

Leading security analyst Shireen Mazari, the head of the Institute of Strategic Studies, said this latest move by the US was "perhaps the most dangerous effort at intruding into Pakistan's sensitive areas in the ongoing effort to gain direct access to nuclear-strategic matters."

The new request has come at a time when senior US officials who recently visited Pakistan had expressed satisfaction over the safety and security of Pakistan's nuclear assets, the report said.

US embassy spokesperson Elizabeth Colton did not reject the US proposal outright, but told The News: "We are in touch with all elements of the Pakistan government all the time. But we do not publish or discuss details of our diplomatic discussions and assignments."

Mazari said the new proposal was made through verbal contact via an assistant secretary-level official.

"This proposal, again, was not routed through either the foreign or defence ministries, but a direct approach was made to the NCA. Apparently, so far Pakistan has not given any response but it would be quite appropriate to be concerned about such a US move, especially since transparency is not available at our end on such issues," she said.

Defence analyst Lt Gen (retired) Talat Masood said this was an "outright interference" in Pakistan's affairs.

"On what basis does the US want direct access to the NCA? Does the US have any particular fears or apprehensions?The US laws do not allow any transfer of nuclear technology or assets to Pakistan, so why should there be any such officer in the US embassy in Islamabad?" he asked.
 
M

mysterious

New Member
Needless to post such information which is 'yet' to be validated by an other media outlet apart from the usual Indian media that go out of their way to publish such sensational news reports.

Even IF true, the United States will under NO circumstances be granted any such permission since the request would be outright rejected as have been the case with previous efforts. The recently elected government which has received a highly popular mandate from the people of Pakistan in fairly transparent elections is not naive enough to axe its own foot by allowing any such U.S. move to go ahead.
 
A

aimans

New Member
another addition to the the Hatf missile family

pakistan tested this new long range missile(2K km range)

i was surprised no has posted anynews on this on the forum, or mayb i didnt find it. anways, check it out:

"http://www.paktribune.com/news/index.shtml?199671"
 
SABRE

SABRE

Super Moderator
Verified Defense Pro
aimans said:
pakistan tested this new long range missile(2K km range)

i was surprised no has posted anynews on this on the forum, or mayb i didnt find it. anways, check it out:

http://www.defencetalk.com/news/pub...Capable_Shaheen-II_Missile_Again160015593.php
Click to expand...
I have edited the link since it was in the DT News section. Next time check if the news is in the news section & post link from there. If not than contact webmaster or supermods.

Why no news on forum was posted by any member & discussed here? Well perhaps they saw it in the news section & did not feel like posting here & had no comments on it.

However, this was not just a test. The interesting thing is it was also a field exercise by army strategic corps of Pakistan to launch a missile - this is for the 1st time the strategic forces have launched a missile (& that being the most advance one) in any form of exercise.
 
G

ghanz

New Member
What is the point of testing these missiles? Do they make improvements before testing them or just to check their readiness.
 
SABRE

SABRE

Super Moderator
Verified Defense Pro
ghanz said:
What is the point of testing these missiles? Do they make improvements before testing them or just to check their readiness.
Click to expand...
Well you don't fire missiles worth millions for no reason. Usually its to check the effectiveness & new improvements.
 
A

Aliph Ahmed

Banned Member
It is to my understanding that everytime a new batch of missiles is produced, the army before accepting it picks one at random and fires it. Part of quality and control management process.

All batches should have some further improvements over previous batches so test firing just to see improvement doesnt make sense.
 
M

mysterious

New Member
Pakistan Test-Fires Nuclear-Capable Cruise Missile: Military

ISLAMABAD: Pakistan on Thursday successfully tested a ground-hugging cruise missile capable of carrying both nuclear and conventional warheads, the military said.

The Hatf-VIII (Ra'ad) missile, developed exclusively for launch from the air, has a range of 350 kilometres (217 miles), a statement said.

"It has enabled Pakistan to achieve a greater strategic stand-off capability on land and at sea," it said.

"It is a low-altitude, terrain-following missile with high manoeuvrability, and can deliver all types of warheads, with great accuracy," it said.

The firing comes just a day after neighbouring India tested a ballistic, nuclear-capable missile capable of hitting targets deep inside China.

President Pervez Musharraf and Prime Minister Syed Yousuf Raza Gilani congratulated the Pakistani scientists and engineers on their "outstanding" success.

"The missile test is part of a continuing process of validating the design parameters of the weapon system," the statement said.

Last month Pakistan military carried out a training launch of Shaheen II, or Hatf VI, a long-range nuclear-capable missile which can hit targets far into India.

Pakistan's arsenal includes short-range, medium and long-range missiles named after Muslim conquerors.

South Asian rivals India and Pakistan -- which have fought three wars, two of them over the disputed Himalayan territory of Kashmir -- routinely carry out missile tests since both demonstrated nuclear weapons capability in 1998.

http://www.defencetalk.com/news/pub...-capable_cruise_missile_military160015730.php


It would interesting if this second testing of Ra'ad was carried out using a different aircraft other than the Mirages in PAF's inventory.
 
A

Aliph Ahmed

Banned Member
My way of reading : After the successfull launch last year, this test is most likely a missile being picked at random and test fired to certify the first batch of Raad Missiles being inducted.

Meaning : First batch of Raad Missile has just been inducted.

In light of latest test firing of different missiles that are already proven in the past, It is to my understanding that missile production in Pakistan is in full swing and at a much much faster pace then of the Indians. Which goes in agreement of President Musharraf's statement last year that Indo-USA nuclear treaty will leave Pakistan with the only option of massively increasing its nuclear deterrent related forces and equipment.

Note: A missile is not test fired to test certain upgrades/modifications unless they are huge.
 
M

mysterious

New Member
And it certainly looks bigger - dimension wise than the 'orange' painted Ra'ad that was tested from a Mirage, doesn't it?

Btw, the gallery links in your post are not working. Would appreciate if you can send me the 'actual' links. Thanks
 
M

mysterious

New Member
Brazil to Sell MAR-1 SEAD Missiles to Pakistan

“Anti-radiation missiles” are designed to find, home in on, and destroy enemy air defense radars; they are often carried by specialist aircraft that accompany air strikes to perform the SEAD (Suppression of Enemy Air Defenses) mission.

In December 2008, Brazil’s government approved a $108 million April 2008 contract with Pakistan for 100 of Mectron’s MAR-1 anti-radiation missiles. DID sources add that the deal needed the Brazilian government’s loan guarantee to become effective.

In contrast with other Mectron Engenharia missiles, such as the MAA-1 SRAAM or the forthcoming A-Darter partnership, Mectron appears to be working hard to avoid publicity for the MAR-1. The firm would not even acknowledge the missile’s existence for many years, and details remain sketchy.

Pictures like this one show a MAR-1 that appears to be similar in size to counterparts like Raytheon’s AGM-88 HARM, and has a reported range of 25 km when launched from an altitude of about 33,000 feet/ 10 km.

Testing appears to have ended, and it will equip Brazil’s upgraded AMX and F-5BR aircraft once it is accepted into service.

... Brazil needs export customers in order to achieve its national goal of re-building its defense industries. Jobim has been quoted as saying that the deal will allow Mectron to increase its production from 1 missile per month to 5 missiles.

A sale to Pakistan, followed by integration into a platform like the Pakistani-Chinese JF-17 lightweight fighter, could also open up a number of new markets for Mectron.

http://www.defenseindustrydaily.com/Brazil-to-Sell-MAR-1-SEAD-Missiles-to-Pakistan-05182/


Looks like, slow but atleast steady progress is being made towards acquisition of better equipment by Pakistan afterall.
 
SABRE

SABRE

Super Moderator
Verified Defense Pro
ghanz said:
Usa accuses Pakistan of modifing maritime anti-ship defensive capability to an offensive land-attack missile.
BBC NEWS | South Asia | Pakistan in US missile refit row
Click to expand...
As usual when U.S. Congress is to sit and decide on Kerry-Luger Bill ($7.5billion for the next 5 years aid to Pakistan), the New York Times and David Sanger join forces to malign Pakistan based on its weapons program in order derail the bill.

Pakistan already has Harpoon-II missiles capable of land-attack in quite a number. Why would they modify vintage Harpoon-I for to do so, and that with a conventional warhead? Plus, it is not the requirement. There are more advance weapons with Pakistan, including a naval cruise missile (Babue) under testing as well as air launched Ra'ad.
 
S

suryaaa

New Member
Guys i have gone through various news articles regarding pakistan reverse engineering american ship based defence missile into offensive missile.Which missile did these news relate to in pakistan's inventory.Is it Raad
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Top