Operation Humanity Freedom: an Urgent Appeal to the Men and Women of the US Military to Watch Our Six

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Atlantic Realm

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Look, virus is gonna virus. Mark 2020 as the year ‘experts’ decided to pretend we could hide from a submicroscopic particle for which person-to-person is just one potential vector. And guess what ? You’ve been breathing Covid all year ... and you’re still alive!

@Atlantic Realm

Dismissing COVID-19 as something we just have to live with (suggesting it is essentially a non-event) flies in the face the growing understanding of the bug, the action being taken to control it and the impact it has had on many lives. You need to drop this topic as I suspect it will divert the thread off topic and the comments are contentious in any case.

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ngatimozart

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In this Brave New World wash your hands, stay home if sick and protect the frail elderly is tin foil hat territory.
The Forum doesn't tolerate fake news and false narratives. At the present time this could also be classified as a political statement given the posters location and politics are forbidden on the forum. Any more such incidents from you will result in Moderator action. Consider this as an adjunct to the second warning that you have managed to accumulate in the space of two posts made within 6 minutes. Not a good look for your continued stay here especially as you have attracted the attention of two of the three grumpiest Moderators on here.
 

OPSSG

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Tested positive for shed viruses from months ago most likely. Florida managed the virus much better than peer states and most countries in the West.
1. Rubbish. Florida’s death toll of 16,544 people from CORVID-19 is higher than Germany (9,960 deaths), South Korea (455 deaths), NZ (25 deaths), and Singapore (28 deaths) combined.

2. In Florida there have been 771,780 cases of coronavirus since March, according to the Florida Department of Health. On 23 Oct 2020, the weekly case average increased to about 3,335 coronavirus cases announced per day. Therefore, Florida at 750 deaths per million due to CORVID-19 is incompetent and doing poorly by comparison to Europe and criminally negligent compared to 4 of the 5 countries listed below:
(a) France (519 deaths per million);​
(b) Germany (119 deaths per million);​
(c) South Korea (8.9 deaths per million);​
(d) NZ (5 deaths per million); or​
(e) Singapore (4.3 deaths per million).​

In this Brave New World wash your hands, stay home if sick and protect the frail elderly is tin foil hat territory.
3. US President Trump’s refusal to use masks has caught up with him, resulting in his family and the White House becoming a cluster of CORVID-19 infections. In this Brave New World that Germany, Korea, NZ and Singapore is part of, frequent hand washing is recommended and wearing a mask when leaving home is the norm. Let me share some facts from Singapore:
(a) Masks help to reduce the expulsion and transmission of droplets, which is the predominant route of transmission of COVID-19 (see Ministry of Heath (MOH) FAQ).​
(b) Some 11 million masks were given out to Singaporean residents, along with free hand sanitisers, as part of CORVID-19 efforts by Temasek Holdings to support the nation's fight against the pandemic.​
(c) In addition, about one million face shields were distributed to young schoolchildren and front-line workers in the food and beverage industry, while 250,000 oximeters - devices used to measure blood oxygen levels - were donated to various groups in the community.​
(d) It will soon be compulsory to use the TraceTogether app or token to perform SafeEntry check-in at certain venues conducting activities with large groups of people in Singapore. This transition from other SafeEntry methods, such as scanning identity cards, is vital as Singapore prepares to resume larger-scale events and further reopen its economy safely, said Singapore’s Smart Nation and Digital Government Office.​
Deaths per million population:
Florida 750
Georgia 723
Texas 607
Alabama 572
USA 682

For comparison -
Spain 732
UK 647
Italy 607
France 519
Germany 119

I don't see Florida as having managed the virus particularly well. More deaths than the US average, or the major European countries.
4. Agreed. In Europe, Germany with 417,350 infected and 119 deaths per million is often seen as the gold standard for CORVID-19 management.

5. In common with other countries that have a competent pandemic response (like Australia, Korea, NZ and Singapore), what’s often cited for Germany’s above average effectiveness in its governmental response is through:
(a) an effective deployment of technology, such as a contact tracing app, to fight the pandemic;​
(b) the frequently praised mass testing program, which rivals South Korea’s; and​

The most important factor is leadership that understands the science and engineering efforts needed to solve problems. In this regard it helps that Angela Merkel has a doctorate in quantum chemistry and heads a country that treats scientists, like the Berlin-based virologist and podcaster Christian Drosten, like superstars.

6. When compared to Europe’s gold standard, South Korea, New Zealand and Singapore are the platinum standard for CORVID-19 management that would put any American state or city to shame — taking the pandemic seriously, these countries despite some set backs, have managed risks properly:

(a) South Korea has had a total of 455 CORVID-19 deaths, to date, with a population of about 51.3 million. Korea has 25,698 cases and has the 2nd lowest rate of reported cases at 268 per million population in OECD countries (above Japan at 181; as per 17 July). The fight to keep infection rates down is ongoing with some set-backs, including on 21 Oct 2020, when Korea added 121 new coronavirus cases — 104 locally transmitted and 17 imported from overseas. It marks the first time the number of locally transmitted cases surpassed 100 since 24 Sep 2020. A total of 26 cases were traced to a medical institution and a nursing facility, both in Gyeonggi Province, where infected patients from a family gathering spread the virus at their workplace and a senior care home. New clusters of infections were also reported from a swimming pool in southwestern Seoul, and from a clothing factory in Yangju, Gyeonggi Province, with 10 cases and seven cases linked to the clusters so far, respectively.​
(b) NZ has had a total of 25 CORVID-19 deaths, to date, with a population of about 5 million. NZ has 1,914 confirmed and probable cases (as at 22 Oct 2020), has the third lowest rate of reported cases at 310 per million population (above Japan at 181 and South Korea at 267; as per 17 July).​

(c) Singapore has had a total of 28 CORVID-19 deaths, with a population of about 6.5 million; partly because smart management of pandemic risks ensured that the heath system was never over-whelmed. This is despite the fact that 57,941 were infected, which is a much higher rate per million of population than in Korea or NZ. In Apr 2020 infections peaked at 1,426 cases per day, to 300 per day in July, to 8 per day (as at 22 Oct 2020). From Apr to Aug 2020, Singapore struggled to bring infection rates per million of population (that was higher than Korea or NZ) under control; but as the numbers show in Oct, transmission rates have gone way down thanks to effective leadership and testing, contact tracing, use of technology, and numerous other effective measures at a whole-of-government level.​

(d) Deaths per million population compared:​
Germany 119
Korea 8.9​
NZ 5​
Singapore 4.3​

(e) Total COVID-19 infections compared:​
Germany 417,350
Korea 25,698​
NZ 1,914​
Singapore 57,941​

7. As of 17 Oct 2020, 37 COVID-19 patients remain hospitalised in Singapore, with none in intensive care. In Singapore more than 99% of those infected have been discharged, while there are 41 in community care facilities.

(a) One of the most effective ways of keeping patients alive in the early days was flipping them around to lie prone - or on their front - instead of on their backs when they were on ventilators.​
(b) The simple manoeuvre helped patients breathe easier and absorb oxygen better, buying time for the body to recover as there was no effective therapy at that point in the outbreak.​
 
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tonnyc

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Don't bother giving Atlantic Realm the benefit of the doubt. Look at his posting history. He is not someone who joins our group wanting to talk about defense matters and then talking about current events such as the coronavirus pandemic. He is an account specifically created to spread misinformation about the coronavirus. Look at the way he copy-pasted the exact same post at the same exact time on two different threads. That is not a person. It's a bot.
 

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Look at his posting history. He is not someone who joins our group wanting to talk about defense matters and then talking about current events such as the coronavirus pandemic. He is an account specifically created to spread misinformation about the coronavirus.
8. The Moderators have banned Atlantic Realm for 2 weeks, in the interim pending a decision on his long term fate in DT. Poor management of COVID-19 risks is resulting in 73,000 new cases in America — with the rate of increase rising. Denial and refusal to recognise risk is killing Americans at a record rate. On 24 Oct 2020, the number of new coronavirus infections in America at 77,640 is greater than the total number of infections in many countries.

9. Unlike idiots like US President Donald Trump and members of his administration who earlier refused to wear masks or touted the use of hydroxychloroquine (an anti-malarial drug) for the coronavirus, medicines like remdesivir and dexamethasone are proven effective at clinical trials. Dexamethasone, a commonly used corticosteroid, helps to dampen inflammation, as patients can develop severe disease due to overwhelming inflammation in the body that is triggered by the viral infection.

10. Singapore’s National Centre for Infectious Diseases (NCID), a purpose built 500 bed facility, collaborated with Gilead and the United States' National Institutes of Health for the remdesivir clinical trials.

(a) Explaining how the drugs work, Dr Lee Tau Hong, 39 said that remdesivir is an anti-viral agent that acts directly on the SARS-CoV-2 – the virus that causes COVID-19 – thus reducing the harmful effects of the disease — remdesivir shortened the average length of stay in the ICU for patients on the study.​

(b) "Eventually, we were proven right with the official release of the trial results, which showed remdesivir to be the first drug with proven efficacy against SARS-CoV-2," Dr Ray Lin Junhao, 37, an infectious disease consultant at Tan Tock Seng Hospital and NCID said.​
And guess what ? You’ve been breathing Covid all year ... and you’re still alive!
11. As with the other misinformation about the coronavirus you try to peddle, this is also factually untrue. Risk can be managed, even as the economy is being progressively opened up for business again. For example, Singapore will pilot pre-event testing from mid-October to December to identify a model that can be widely implemented so that more large-scale events can safely resume, announced Minister for Health Gan Kim Yong on Tuesday (Oct 20).

(a) This means that participants going to an event or activity will be tested either at the event venue or at a separate testing facility, and only participants who have tested negative in these Antigen rapid tests (ARTs) will be allowed to participate in the event.​

(b) Although polymerase chain reaction (PCR) tests are currently used as the “definitive test” for confirming COVID-19 cases, the results take about one to two days, which is not feasible for pre-event testing.​

(c) The ART results will be valid for 24 hours from the time of the swab, and it must be valid at the point of entry until the end of the event, said MOH.​

12. Broadly, two modes of transmission of COVID-19 exist—direct and indirect.

(i) The direct mode includes (a) transmission via aerosols formed via surgical and dental procedures and/or in the form of respiratory droplet nuclei; (b) other body fluids and secretions, for example, feces, saliva, urine, semen, and tears; and (c) mother-to-child.​

(ii) Indirect transmission may occur via (a) fomites or surfaces (e.g., furniture and fixtures) present within the immediate environment of an infected patient and (b) objects used on the infected person (e.g., stethoscope or thermometer).​
 

Ananda

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Indonesia Health ministries finally decided to get booster (third shoot) for Health Care workers (around close to 1.5 mio) with Moderna. This after US Government Guarantee 4 mio Moderna doses for this month and next.

So far the booster only for Health Care workers which has more risk exposures with highly infected patients. The rest of population that so far get two doses of Sinovac (90%+), Astra Zeneca and Sinopharm, will not get booster at least until six month to a year (unless the study says other wise).

The result from Chile so far encourage Indonesian Health authorities for Sinovac still good enough for most of population with Eficacy of 63% and able to hold severe infection/hospitalisation up to 90%.
 

Arji

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Indonesia Health ministries finally decided to get booster (third shoot) for Health Care workers (around close to 1.5 mio) with Moderna. This after US Government Guarantee 4 mio Moderna doses for this month and next.
Great! I heard combination of different types of vaccine is actually more effective than any one type.
 

tonnyc

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Great! I heard combination of different types of vaccine is actually more effective than any one type.
Both the possibility of a third shot and mixing a different vaccine for it had been mooted a few months back. I think it was February or March. Though back then mRNA was not available so the assumption was that the third shot will use CoronaVac again while the mixing of vaccines will be dealt with in once the Pfizer vaccine arrives (current estimate: August).

US donation of Moderna's vaccine is fortuitous in timing as it lets us advance the schedule by at least a month or two. Might not sound much but during an outbreak of a new variant? Invaluable.
 

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Great! I heard combination of different types of vaccine is actually more effective than any one type.
Here in the UK official guidance is that you should have both doses of any of the vaccines for which the manufacturers recommend two doses, but giving a third dose of a different vaccine as a booster is currently being considered.

Almost 90% of adults here have now had one dose, & about 65% two doses, & I think the plan is to fully vaccinate everyone willing before starting on boosters.
 

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Part 1 of 3: Delta from 0% to over 80% in 10 weeks

Here in the UK official guidance is that you should have both doses of any of the vaccines for which the manufacturers recommend two doses, but giving a third dose of a different vaccine as a booster is currently being considered.

Almost 90% of adults here have now had one dose, & about 65% two doses, & I think the plan is to fully vaccinate everyone willing before starting on boosters.
1. UK despite its high vaccination rate is having difficulty in managing the spread of the Delta (aka one of the coronavirus variants first detected in India - the B.16172) and the British variant B.1.1.7. I also worry about the spread of the B.1.525 ("Nigerian") coronavirus variant that combines traits of B1.1.7 (British) with B.1.351 (South-African). Almost 45.7 million people in UK have had a first vaccine dose - about 87% of the adult population - and more than 34 million have had a second. The number of first doses administered each day is now averaging at about 98,000 in UK - far below a peak of some 500,000 in mid-March. An average of more than 160,000 second doses are now being given a day, with the delivery of second doses accelerated in UK in response to the emergence of the Delta variant, first identified in India.
(a) Likewise, Israel is a 60% 2-dose Pfizer vaccinated country is also struggling with the Delta variant. Israel said the country will begin offering a third dose of Pfizer Inc's vaccine to adults with weak immune systems but it was still weighing whether to make the booster available to the general public. Israeli data shows that in June it had 2,395 Covid-19 cases​
  • 57% unvaccinated = 1373
  • 4% partially vaccinated = 90
  • 39% vaccinated = 932
Today, there are 34 severely ill patients in hospital​
  • 59% unvaccinated = 20
  • 6% partially vaccinated = 2
  • 35% vaccinated = 12
(b) In the latest sign of the uneven state of the coronavirus pandemic around the world, a slew of countries in the Asia-Pacific region are rushing to impose restrictions on movement to contain surging cases, a full year and a half into a pandemic that many had originally handled deftly. Thailand is introducing a seven-hour nightly curfew, South Korea is introducing curbs in capital Seoul and Vietnam is locking down after setting fresh records for daily case numbers or deaths this week. Indonesia has had to source emergency oxygen supplies from neighboring Singapore as it struggles with shortages, the Associated Press reported.​

2. A study in Singapore showed that the B.16172:

(a) has a higher viral load (Australian studies show that previous or earlier variants spread to 25% of household members vs 100% spread to household members) and fleeting exposures of just 5-10 seconds is now enough with the new Delta variant;​
(b) is able to spread to vaccinated (2 shots) to unvaccinated, which led to large transmission chains in Singapore that even our world class contact tracing and testing regime struggled to cope with for 2 to 3 weeks; in a Singapore Delta variant cluster that was in the study, among 29 vaccinated who got infected, 21 transmissions events were between vaccinated-to-vaccinated or vaccinated-to-unvaccinated; and​
(c) has been shown to cause more unvaccinated people who are infected (by percentage) to be hospitalised and increases the need of the infected for oxygen to survive, which increases the load on hospitals.​

3. A 90-year-old woman who died after falling ill with Covid-19 was infected with both the B.1.1.7 (Alpha) and B.1.351 (Beta) variants of the coronavirus at the same time, researchers in Belgium said on 10 July 2021, adding that the rare phenomenon may be underestimated. The unvaccinated woman, who lived alone and received at-home nursing care, was admitted to the OLV Hospital in the Belgian city of Aalst after a spate of falls in March and tested positive for Covid-19 the same day. While her oxygen levels were initially good, her condition deteriorated rapidly and she died 5 days later. According to the CDC, there are four notable variants in the US:
  • B.1.1.7 (Alpha): This variant was first detected in the US in Dec 2020. It was initially detected in the UK.
  • B.1.351 (Beta): This variant was first detected in the US at the end of Jan 2021. It was initially detected in South Africa in December 2020.
  • P.1 (Gamma): This variant was first detected in the US in Jan 2021. P.1 was initially identified in travelers from Brazil, who were tested during routine screening at an airport in Japan, in early January.
  • B.16172 (Delta): This variant was first detected in the US in Mar 2021. It was initially identified in India in Dec 2020.
These variants seem to spread more easily and quickly than other variants, which may lead to more cases of COVID-19. An increase in the number of cases will put more strain on healthcare resources, lead to more hospitalizations, and potentially more deaths; and vaccines alone is not the solution for the Asia-Pacific region, Europe, UK or North America.

4. To combat the spread of Corvid-19, TraceTogether, SafeEntry requirements to be reintroduced in supermarkets in Singapore. Singapore’s MOH said the high volume of patrons in supermarkets increases the risk of transmission. The reintroduction of the rule requirement will facilitate more targeted contact tracing for those who visited indoor buildings at the same time as an infected person, the ministry said. In Singapore on 9 July 2021, 3.9 million first doses of the vaccine has been administered and 1/3 of the population or 2.3 million have completed the full vaccination regimen of the 2nd dose.
(a) Singapore encourages mask wearing even after vaccination but will move to a new normal after a large percentage is vaccinated — the tiny country is on track after relaxing the latest round of restrictions on 13 June 2021 and is currently providing 60,000 vaccine jabs per day.​
(b) From 12 Jul 2021 onwards: (i) groups of 5 allowed to dine in; (ii) resumption of wedding receptions — weddings with no more than 250 attendees allowed with pre-event testing. For wedding receptions with 50 attendees or fewer, pre-event testing will be required for the wedding party only; (iii) the cap on group sizes for indoor activities such as gyms raised to 5; and (iv) gatherings at the workplace must be limited to a total size of no more than 5 people.​
(c) From 15 July 2021: mandatory, routine fast and easy tests for staff in higher-risk settings to start. From 16 July 2021 onwards, antigen rapid tests kit will be sold at supermarkets, and convenience stores.​
5. With its testing capacity and ability to acquire vaccine stocks for its entire population, Singapore has been punching above its weight in fighting against the Covid-19 pandemic. In addition:
(a) Blood samples from 3 patients in Singapore were used to develop the experimental antibody cocktail used to treat former US President Donald Trump after he tested positive for the coronavirus. Singapore’s National Centre for Infectious Diseases (NCID) had responded to a collaboration request from US biotechnology firm Regeneron - the company which developed that antibody cocktail - with no claim of intellectual property right over the treatment.​
(b) Regeneron eventually used 3 of the 5 Singapore patient samples as the research starting point to develop the antibodies. Regeneron's treatment, called REGN-COV2, is a combination or 'cocktail' of two antibodies, which are infection-fighting proteins that were developed to bind themselves to the virus and inhibit it from invading human cells.​
(c) The key is having a large enough sample of infected to develop the science of treatment and having a superb contact tracing capability in Singapore to gather reliable data and study the spread of new variants.​

6. In the US, Corvid-19 is now a pandemic of the unvaccinated, according to the head of the US CDC. In Alabama, state officials report 94% of COVID hospital patientsand 96% of Alabamians who have died of COVID since April were not fully vaccinated. Every new case provides chance for further mutation. Delta went from 0% to over 80% of cases in 10 weeks. As children get infected, any mutation that can better infect their vaxxed parents (and their parents' friends) will have a selection advantage.
 

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Part 2 of 3: Delta from 0% to over 80% in 10 weeks

7. The Covid-19 virus will continue to mutate and this testing and vaccination program will go in circles in the years to come (becoming treated like a very serious type of seasonal flu for those vaccinated). To combat this Delta variant spread, alternatives to PCR tests being rolled out or evaluated in Singapore including antigen rapid tests, saliva tests, breathalysers and wastewater surveillance.

8. Please wear a mask at in-door public areas and on public transport — even people who have been vaccinated can be infected or in some cases re-infected by Covid-19. The danger posted by the Delta variant is real, get vaccinated (or many more will die). I am not against people like Olivia Guidry choosing not get vaccinated and to die from Covid-19. The issue is how many more these people will infect before they die or get others killed from them spreading the virus.

9. Long COVID is a real multi-system syndrome that occurs in those infected (far more common than in uninfected controls) — predominantly impacting the young. The majority of those affected are <50 yrs. And it affects children.
(i) Between 10-13% of children have symptoms for 5 wks or more, and 7-8% of children had symptoms for 12 wks or more compared with <2% of controls. Also these symptoms are not mild. Of the ~1 million people affected, 2/3rds said it impacted their day to day activity. And 400,000 have had persistent symptoms for more than a year.​
(ii) For most affected, this wasn't a single symptom. It was a combination of many symptoms. e.g. 20% of those infected reported 3 or more symptoms and 17% reported 4 or more symptoms at 12 weeks. If symptoms persist for 12 weeks as they do in 1 in 3 people as per the REACT-1 study, they tend to persist for much longer (up to 22 weeks or more). Also 1/3rd of those with one symptom persisting said it impacted their day to day activities.​
(iii) The cognitive symptoms (brain fog, memory loss, difficulty concentrating, sleep disturbances) tend to become prominent later in long COVID, & also last longer. These are worrying also because there are now studies showing the virus affects the brain, even in younger people. More and more evidence accruing that SARS-CoV-2 causes significant persistent effects on the brain. We now have multiple strands supporting this:​
  • long-term symptoms-brain fog, memory loss
  • higher risk of stroke/neuro diseases
  • structural brain changes
  • virus persistence in brain
10. Israeli MoH beginning to suspect that the Pfizer vaccine's immunity is waning given the spread of Delta. The B.1.617.2 or delta variant has spread worldwide. In a test-negative case–control study, the effectiveness of two doses of BNT162b2 was 94% against the B.1.1.7 variant and 88% against delta; with ChAdOx1 nCoV-19, effectiveness was 74% and 67%, respectively. In US, Singapore and Israel, we have data that show that while vaccines sharply reduce the likelihood of infection — and serious illness and death — vaccinated people have gotten Covid-19.
 

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Part 3 of 3: Delta from 0% to over 80% in 10 weeks

11. The Singapore Government previously thought that as long as the number of COVID-19 cases remained at about 40 to 60 per day, Singapore could “maintain the posture” while keeping clusters under control, said Health Minister and task force co-chair Ong Ye Kung. “Unfortunately every day makes a difference, and the public health situation changed in a short few days,” he added. From 22 July 2021 to 18 August 2021 (both dates inclusive), social gathering group sizes will be reduced to a maximum of 2 persons and dining-in at all F&B establishments in Singapore will cease. The Land Transport Authority said in a separate statement that the updated restrictions on group sizes will apply to passengers in taxis and private hire cars. More than two passengers can only travel together if they all live in the same household.

(a) “We know that this news is extremely disappointing and frustrating to many, in particular for businesses in sectors such as F&B. These sectors have been very badly hit given the earlier restrictions, they have been working very hard to adapt to the changing regulations,” said Mr Gan Kim Yong, who is also Minister for Trade and Industry.​
(b) The large cluster of Covid-19 cases involving those who visited KTV lounges where Safe Management Measures were often breached is in fact not to blame for the tightening of restrictions taking place from 22 July 2021. Mr Ong explained that what caused the "slide back" to the tighter measures under Phase 2 (Heightened Alert) — where dining in is prohibited and social gatherings are limited to two persons — was actually the Jurong Fishery Port cluster.​
(c) Mr Ong posed a hypothetical scenario in which a group of 5 friends met for dinner, and each member of the group is part of a household of 5 persons, who then meet with their own groups of 5. In such a scenario, Ong said, "we have a network of 5x5x5=125 connections for the virus to work itself through. This will turbo charge the Jurong Fishery Port cluster further."​
(d) Mr Ong also said that half of Singapore’s population have been fully vaccinated against Covid-19. But there remains about 200,000 seniors above 60 years old who have not received their shots.​
(e) The MOH is also investigating likely Covid-19 transmission at blocks in Sims Avenue. This comes after Covid-19 viral fragments were detected in wastewater samples collected from these blocks. Mandatory testing for residents of these 4 blocks will be done from July 22 to 23.​

12. IMO, Singapore as a country can aim for between 80% to 90% vaccination rate for the general population; but a higher vaccination number for the elderly.

13. In other related news, Singapore will send regular shipments of emergency oxygen supplies to Indonesia to aid the country’s fight against the current surge of COVID-19, Singapore's Ministry of Foreign Affairs (MFA) said on Monday (Jul 19). This arrangement, known as the “Oxygen Shuttle” programme, is at Indonesia’s request and will supplement the urgent need for oxygen in medical facilities there, added MFA.

(i) The “Oxygen Shuttle” programme is in addition to assistance from the Singapore Government to Indonesia in the form of oxygen cylinders, oxygen concentrators, ventilators, as well as other medical supplies and equipment, sent in earlier batches on Jul 9 and Jul 11.​
(ii) The programme is coordinated by MFA, with support from the Ministry of Defence, and the Changi Regional Humanitarian Assistance and Disaster Relief Coordination Centre. Singapore is sending over 500 tonnes of liquid oxygen in regular shipments till August. 4 ISO tanks carrying a total of 80 tonnes of liquid oxygen arrived in Tanjung Priok, Jakarta on 19 July. This is in addition to the 2 ISO tanks (40 tonnes) sent over on the RSS Endeavour on 11 July. The next shipment will arrive next week.​
(iii) Even the Indian Navy is starting to send Oxygen and other Corvid-19 supplies to Indonesia.​

Bugger. She who must be obeyed and I had our second Pfizer jab this morning. Now I am just waiting for the 3 heads and horns to start growing. :D
14. I am waiting for my second jab, which is scheduled for next week — I felt slightly unwell for 2 days after my 1st jab — muscle stiffness on the injected site. I have a history of allergic reactions to insect stings, shell-fish and other unknown triggers — which made me ineligible for earlier vaccination. Singapore’s MOH only cleared people like me, from 4 Jun 2021 onwards — that is the main reason for my delay in getting vaccinated. In this regard, MOH does a good job of keeping us informed.

15. As of 23 July 2021, 12pm, the MOH has verified the number of new cases in Singapore has increased from 178 cases in the week before to 961 cases in the past week. We are likely to continue to see high number of cases in the coming days as we step up efforts to detect them to contain their spread in the community. The number of unlinked cases in the community has also increased from 18 cases in the week before to 97 cases in the past week. The 7-day moving average number of all linked community cases and all unlinked community cases are 123.4 and 13.9 respectively. There is continuing evidence that vaccination helps to prevent serious disease when one gets infected. Over the last 28 days, 10 local cases required oxygen supplementation, were admitted to ICU or passed away. 8 are unvaccinated, 2 are partially vaccinated and none was fully vaccinated.

16. As of 24 Jul 2021, 12pm, MOH has confirmed that there are 130 new cases of COVID-19 infection in Singapore — with a total of 63,924 infected from the start of the pandemic. 127 of the cases are locally transmitted, of which 75 are linked to the Jurong Fishery Port cluster while five belong to the KTV cluster. Here are the daily case numbers in the past week:
  • July 18: 92
  • July 19: 172
  • July 20: 195
  • July 21: 181
  • July 22: 170
  • July 23: 133
  • July 24: 130
 
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ASSAIL

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Governments of many countries have imposed mandatory vaccinations on their defence forces for decades.
Smallpox, Yellow Fever to name the most common and now COVID.
These vaccines are essential before deployments in particular but also in order to protect the integrity of the force.
Service in the Military means that many everyday freedoms are compromised by one simple word, “service”, those who join a voluntary force do so under that clear understanding and we should all be grateful.
So, to the poster above who considers “rights” over “service” I have a simple message, don’t join your defence force and go right on enjoying the protection they provide.
 

Redlands18

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Four months ago, I wrote a dispatch to the men and women of the United States military, active duty and veterans, asking them to prepare for the eventuality of being given orders they know in their hearts to be immoral and unconstitutional. What seemed needlessly alarmist is now proving to be prescient as Biden’s administration—with only token and duplicitous resistance from Republicans—is transitioning from pressuring Americans to get “vaccinated” to potentially using the full might and coercive force of government to compel everyone to get injected with experimental boosters.

As always, our bravest and finest will be the first ones in the line of fire; the US Army has already instructed commands to prepare to administer mandatory Covid-19 “vaccines” as early as September. The US Navy is following suit; Chief of Naval Personnel Vice Admiral John Nowell affirmed that as soon as the FDA approves the “vaccines”, they too will most likely mandate jabs. According to Military.com, the Pentagon is eyeing forced “vaccinations” for all DoD personnel in a move that is not only an outrageous infringement of our rights as Americans but also has the potential to undermine military preparedness...continued...

[Mod edit: Self serving, irrational link deleted.]
Never served have you?
 
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Post reported by multiple members.

Thread closed as it violates forum rules and is seen as anti-science and political — any further attempt by GodHonorCountry to continue this discussion will lead to a ban (without further warning). Pending Moderator discussions, we may decide to impose additional sanctions beyond the warning given.
 
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ngatimozart

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Four months ago, I wrote a dispatch to the men and women of the United States military, active duty and veterans, asking them to prepare for the eventuality of being given orders they know in their hearts to be immoral and unconstitutional. What seemed needlessly alarmist is now proving to be prescient as Biden’s administration—with only token and duplicitous resistance from Republicans—is transitioning from pressuring Americans to get “vaccinated” to potentially using the full might and coercive force of government to compel everyone to get injected with experimental boosters.

As always, our bravest and finest will be the first ones in the line of fire; the US Army has already instructed commands to prepare to administer mandatory Covid-19 “vaccines” as early as September. The US Navy is following suit; Chief of Naval Personnel Vice Admiral John Nowell affirmed that as soon as the FDA approves the “vaccines”, they too will most likely mandate jabs. According to Military.com, the Pentagon is eyeing forced “vaccinations” for all DoD personnel in a move that is not only an outrageous infringement of our rights as Americans but also has the potential to undermine military preparedness...continued...

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Just to add to the comments above. As a veteran myself I find your post offensive to all serving personnel and veterans of all nations military forces. You probably have never served, never had the privilege and honour of wearing your country's uniform. That just makes you another Walt(er Mitty), a poser who thinks that they know the military life, but they don't. Those of us who serve and who have served have values and a world view that are far greater and more honest than those that you espouse. We look out for our brothers and sisters in arms not just whilst we serve, but for the rest of theirs and our lives. That's who and what we are.
 

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Further update; the now deleted and banned poster was removed for spam, following a cross reference of information which came across a report of spam for the material being posted.
-Preceptor
 

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OPSSG said:
As I see it, Stephen Harmon’s prayers were answered by his God — his life and death serves as a powerful testimony of his failure to listen to God. God provided him scientists to give him some guidance, masks to keep the disease from spreading, and ultimately a vaccine — all of which he ignored.
There are various stories along those lines, with people waving away rescuers/helpers of various kinds saying "God will provide", then dying & finding themselves facing God & asking why he neglected them, to which God replies "I sent (lists rescuers/whatever) & you turned them all down".

It baffles me that there are still people like him, who believe in a deity which goes to all the trouble to create a world with people who can devise vaccines, medicines, protective, equipment, etc., & then refuse to use any of them & demand that the deity intervenes to help them directly.
 
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Let me close this thread with a public service message, I approve of and provide some real info (to stop the spread of misinformation).

Hopefully, this will serve to discourage COVID-19 idiots from joining this forum.


1. Very simple message in 1 of 4 official languages — communicated in English in this video — asking our citizens to cooperate in the national effort to test, trace and vaccinate. We have a government that cares and citizens who cooperate.

2. Everyone joining the Singapore Armed Forces (SAF) will be vaccinated before their enlistment date, to enable safe conduct of operations and training.

3. Three generations of my family have served in the SAF, including me (30 months) and my son (22 months); followed by 10 years of reserve service. All of my family members who have served, have received vaccine doses mandated by the SAF that are essential (before going overseas exercises or deployments).

4. 18 years on, Singapore as a country has put SARS lessons to the test in the fight against the coronavirus. At the heart of Singapore's response plan is the Disease Outbreak Response System (DORS), a crisis management plan which did not exist in 2003, but was drafted after SARS and refined again in the wake of the swine flu (or H1N1) pandemic in 2009. Under DORS, we know that masking and vaccination will help reduce many preventable deaths, including of the death of Stephen Harmon as active church member in L.A. (who is preaching against vaccination). Hillsong Church, founded in Australia, has congregations around the world. Harmon attended Hillsong in downtown L.A. In his final tweet on Wednesday, Mr Harmon said he had decided to go under intubation.

"Don't know when I'll wake up, please pray," Stephen Harmon wrote.​

5. Despite his struggle with the virus, Mr Harmon still said he would reject being jabbed, saying his religious faith would protect him. In Singapore, guidance given under DORS is taken seriously by all religious groups, such that churches, mosques and temples are closed at the appropriate time; and even when it is reopened, masks and temperature screening are mandatory and no church in Singapore is claiming that religious faith alone would protect its members.
As I see it, Stephen Harmon’s prayers were answered by his God — his life and death serves as a powerful testimony of his failure to listen to God. God provided him scientists to give him some guidance, masks to keep the disease from spreading, and ultimately a vaccine — all of which he ignored.

6. With the spread of the Delta variant, nearly 60 major medical organizations in America, including the American Medical Association and the American Nurses Association, called for mandatory vaccination of health care workers. Unlike Singaporeans, Americans don’t trust others or the government enough to get a vaccine jab.

(a) Political division, disinformation, and stupidity made:​

(i) a large segment of Americans; and​
(ii) a significant minority of Australians, Canadians and the British,​
unwilling to listen to facts — including idiots like Stephen Harmon from L.A., Curt Carpenter from Alabama and Olivia Guidry (an Emergency Room Nurse at Ochsner Lafayette General)— choosing not to get vaccinated and dying from Covid-19. While deaths due to stupidity is normal, these three deaths are part of an infection chain in America that harms society at large. Tests in Singapore have shown that the viral load in infected persons who are fully vaccinated falls very rapidly, to a very low level only after 9 days — whereas an unvaccinated person, who is only slightly sick, has to stay in quarantine for at least 21 days. Singapore’s MOH is now discharging fully vaccinated persons from isolation after 14 days from onset of illness with a 7-day leave of absence, so long as their tests show that they are Covid-19 negative or have very low viral loads.​
(b) Political division, disinformation, and stupidity has created an environment in which enough people in America, Australia or Britain will NOT change their minds, because to accept the science now is to admit that the favorite information sources of CORVID idiots have been wrong all along.
(c) In contrast to the delays in vaccine roll-out/acceptance, in America or Australia, 66.6% of Singapore’s population (over the age of 12) will be fully vaccinated by 9 Aug 2021. By end Sept 2021, more than 80% of our population (over the age of 12) will be vaccinated, to enable our economy to reopen. MOH has also reduced the dose interval to 4 weeks — that way, 60% of infected can recover in community care facilities in just 14 days (instead of being in acute care for a much longer period). This speeded up 2nd jab will allow more of the population in Singapore to complete their vaccination of two doses sooner. We have a government that cares and citizens who cooperate that is why out of the 64,314 Corvid-19 cases that occurred, we only have 37 deaths.​

7. Dr. Vivek Murthy released the first surgeon general's advisory of his time serving in the Biden administration, describing the "urgent threat" posed by the rise of false information around COVID-19 — one that continues to put "lives at risk" and prolong the pandemic. Murthy says Americans must do their part to fight misinformation.

8. In every country, there are children and elderly out there with cancer with very weak immune systems who cannot afford to have COVID-19 spread to them by a person who is asymptomatic or slightly sick. Sadly for the people who Stephen Harmon infected and his followers, he chose indulge in the sin of pride instead of humility — he failed to have the humility to listen to the medical professionals who had to take risk to care for him on his death bed. Epidemiologists who use mathematical modeling to calculate disease spread have found the following:

One, the initial R0 of COVID-19 was estimated as between 2.3-2.7 (one infected person is likely to infect 2.3 to 2.7 unaware people) — which made pandemic spread of the virus difficult to control.​

Two, the Delta variant is much more highly infectious with a R0 of between of 5-8 (one infected person is likely to infect 5 to 8 unaware people). This means that Stephen Harmon’s COVID-19 mis-information is causing more harm to a greater number of people, because the virus has mutated to be more infectious. The maths for arithmetic progression at a R0 of 2.5 calculated against 5, in 6 rounds of progression is 610 vs 78,125 (of infected people).​
 
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