New north korean missle declared likly fake

[lucinator]

The new north Korean mobile medium range ballistic missile debuted at the 100th anniversary parade has been declared likely a fake. This is due to the this sheet metal that makes up the reentry vehicle which is not thick enough to survive reentry.

 

[MrConservative]

The new north Korean mobile medium range ballistic missile debuted at the 100th anniversary parade has been declared likely a fake. This is due to the this sheet metal that makes up the reentry vehicle which is not thick enough to survive reentry.

A source for this would be nice. Also the proper usage of spelling and punctuation in your title would help with your posts been taken seriously. This is a forum with professional standards. Lift your game mate.

 

[PCShogun]

The new north Korean mobile medium range ballistic missile debuted at the 100th anniversary parade has been declared likely a fake. This is due to the this sheet metal that makes up the reentry vehicle which is not thick enough to survive reentry.

I saw several main stream articles stating this and the actual photos would support it, you can actually see the ripples in the metal where it is so flimsy. Not only would it not survive re-entry, it would not survive the launch.

Still, would you actually place a missile that is secret on display if you really had one?

The launch vehicle was also new, and that wasn't fake. That vehicle is designed to launch something big. The launcher does appears to be, or is very closely based on a Chinese WS51200 or Belorussian MAZ-79221. It raises the question of how these ended up in North Korea as sanctions would prevent this. Why? because you cannot sell missile tech to the North Koreans and because the darn engine is made by Cummins Inc, a U.S. company, and as such cannot be sold legally to the NK's either. How close are these launcher vehicles to the Chinese WS51200 TEL? Hubei Sanjiang Space Wanshan Special Vehicle company isn't even attempting to hide the fact that they sold these units, proclaiming the "Customers" satisfaction with delivery on their company website (湖北三江航天万山特ç§è½¦è¾†æœ‰é™å…¬å¸)

Anyway, a good write up can be found here. It adds a bit more detail into the mock ups shown in NK's parade and how the military and intelligence community knows these are fake.

http://lewis.armscontrolwonk.com/files/2012/04/KN-08_Analysis_Schiller_Schmucker.pdf

 

[Masquerader]

The missile paraded aboard the Chinese-made WS51200 lumber trucks during commemorations in April 2012 of the centennial of Kim il-Sung's birth was officially dubbed Hwasong-13. The Hwasong-13s showed off at a military parade in Kim il-Sung Square marking the 60th anniversary of the end of the Korean War exhibited a number of differences from the Hwasong-13 mockups paraded in 2012, and it should be noted that the Peacekeeper ICBM as built differed in a few respects from a mockup of it built in the late 1970s, when it was officially called Missile-X (MX). A new Hwasong-13 iteration (dubbed KN-14 by US intelligence) paraded in 2015 during commemorations of the 70th anniversary of the Korean Workers' Party is quite different in being a two-stage vehicle, suggesting that DPRK missile designers settled on a less technologically risky two-stage liquid-fuel ICBM (the Chinese DF-4 and DF-5 ICBMs were also designed as two-stage liquid-fuel missiles).

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