Military Aviation News and Discussion

[John Fedup]

Used KC-10s are up for sale. I would have thought sale opportunities would a better for forest fire fighting rather than private aerial refuelling albeit they are expensive to operate and are limited for low level drops in many fire prone areas. Have to like the huge tankage capacity.

KC-10 Extender Tankers Are Up For Auction

 

[Ananda]

Sweden authorizes the signing of agreements to finalize the sale of 12 Saab Gripen E/F fighter jets to the Peruvian Air Force

Building on the recent selection of the JAS-39 Gripen E/F by the Colombian Aerospace Force, Sweden is stepping up its efforts to position Saab’s fighter

www.zona-militar.com

Swedes seems securing internal permission for selling up to 12 Gripen E/F. I believe Brazil facility will be use to supply all Gripen to South America market. Means Brazil themselves, Columbia and now Peru.

Question for Gripen now is their reliance on GE-414 engine. Eventough it is build by Volvo, it is still GE-414. SAAB should get options for another engine, as Trump antics on export already shown reliance on one source have problematic Risk. Something that Turkiye found out when they want to sell their Attack Helicopter to Philippines.

 

[John Fedup]

Sweden authorizes the signing of agreements to finalize the sale of 12 Saab Gripen E/F fighter jets to the Peruvian Air Force

Building on the recent selection of the JAS-39 Gripen E/F by the Colombian Aerospace Force, Sweden is stepping up its efforts to position Saab’s fighter

www.zona-militar.com

Swedes seems securing internal permission for selling up to 12 Gripen E/F. I believe Brazil facility will be use to supply all Gripen to South America market. Means Brazil themselves, Columbia and now Peru.

Question for Gripen now is their reliance on GE-414 engine. Eventough it is build by Volvo, it is still GE-414. SAAB should get options for another engine, as Trump antics on export already shown reliance on one source have problematic Risk. Something that Turkiye found out when they want to sell their Attack Helicopter to Philippines.

Saab should have began a development program for a modified EJ200 with Eurojet years ago.

 

[Sandhi Yudha]

A CN235-110 from UAE recently landed on 14 april in Bandung, for a Service Life Extension Program at IPTN's facility. From which i can remember, Abu Dhabi ordered 7 CN235-110s from IPTN in the '90s.

Two more CN235s will arrive soon in Bandung for the same SLEP.

https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=1371268267374627&id=100034744016794

 

[Sandhi Yudha]

The Peruvian government has been negotiating a government-to-government deal for twelve JAS39NG Gripens.

Peru has upgraded its Mirage 2000P/DP and MiG-29 in 2008-2010, but these aircrafts are nearing the end of their life. In 2013 Peru was already looking around for replacement of the Mirages, these are planned to be retired in 2025, this year. So this is a little bit late.

Peru eyeing JAS39

Peru eyeing JAS39 The Peruvian government has been negotiating a government-to-government deal for twelve JAS39NG Gripens. The request to authorise this deal was necessary from the...

scramble.nl

 

[Ananda]

Cairo and Seoul Sign Agreement for Local FA-50 Fighter Jet Production

Egypt and South Korea have reached a major deal that will see South Korean FA-50 light combat aircraft built in Egypt.

www.aeronewsjournal.com

Another FA-50 win, and it's big one. Up to 100FA-50 with up to 70 will be assembly and manufacture in Egypt. In the very competitive global market for LCA-FLIT market, FA-50 so far manage to out perform it's competitors on getting market.

The likes of Italian T346, Russian Yak-130, China-Pakistan JF-17, India Tejas, Turkiye Hurjet and Czech L-159 already crowded the market for this segment. Thus what Korean achieve in outperform latest LCA-FLIT deals are quite an achievement.

I do wonder if T-7A being green light to be developed in to LCA version.

 

[At lakes]

Cairo and Seoul Sign Agreement for Local FA-50 Fighter Jet Production

Egypt and South Korea have reached a major deal that will see South Korean FA-50 light combat aircraft built in Egypt.

www.aeronewsjournal.com

Another FA-50 win, and it's big one. Up to 100FA-50 with up to 70 will be assembly and manufacture in Egypt. In the very competitive global market for LCA-FLIT market, FA-50 so far manage to out perform it's competitors on getting market.

The likes of Italian T346, Russian Yak-130, China-Pakistan JF-17, India Tejas, Turkiye Hurjet and Czech L-159 already crowded the market for this segment. Thus what Korean achieve in outperform latest LCA-FLIT deals are quite an achievement.

I do wonder if T-7A being green light to be developed in to LCA version.

Air Force weighing turning T-7 into F-7 armed light attack jet: Official - Breaking Defense

Despite not talking to Boeing about development of a F-7 armed light attack aircraft based off the T-7A Red Hawk, a USAF official has revealed the service is interested in such a concept, and could look to replace older F-16s with it.

breakingdefense.com

With regard to your question regarding the T7 the short answer is yes. The USAF are believed to be exploring options for the T7 to replace the F16, it will be dubbed the F7 if it goes ahead

 

[Ananda]

Thanks for that F-7 info, perhaps there's interest and intention to develop T-7 further. However seems it is not official yet. Developing FLIT (or use to be call LIFT), is only creating LCA. Thus I don't think the intention is to replace F-16.

First F-16 Block 70 Emerges From Lockheed Martin’s New Factory—128 More on Order | Air & Space Forces Magazine

The first F-16 of the Block 70/72 configuration has rolled out of Lockheed Martin’s Greenville, S.C., facility.

www.airandspaceforces.com

Besides, USAF Block 70 upgrade just like brand new V is already make F-16 still relevance 2 or even 3 decade from now. F-35 and F-16 Blok 70 combo seems what USAF aiming for. For US, F-5 being build also to provide allies or friendlies on cheaper US Fighter. However from US pov, it is already being fill by FA-50, in which basically already part of LM fighter anyway.

LCA users mostly use it on the function that F-5 or Mig-21 has in the past. Do USAF still really need something like F-5 ? I think that will be determined whether this F-7 ever come to fruition. Thus if US ever decide to build this F-7, I think it is more likely for export market.

No Doubt Boeing and SAAB wants to enter increasing lucrative LCA market. However will both of them want to invest independently to develop F-7 without USAF order ? That's the economic scale question for them to decide.

 

[swerve]

Air Force weighing turning T-7 into F-7 armed light attack jet: Official - Breaking Defense

Despite not talking to Boeing about development of a F-7 armed light attack aircraft based off the T-7A Red Hawk, a USAF official has revealed the service is interested in such a concept, and could look to replace older F-16s with it.

breakingdefense.com

With regard to your question regarding the T7 the short answer is yes. The USAF are believed to be exploring options for the T7 to replace the F16, it will be dubbed the F7 if it goes ahead

Has the USA completely abandoned its military aircraft designation system now? F-35, now F-47 & F-7 - random numbers! It shouldn't have reached F-30 yet.

F-7 was the Convair Sea Dart, redesignated from the USN F2Y.

 

[Terran]

Has the USA completely abandoned its military aircraft designation system now? F-35, now F-47 & F-7 - random numbers! It shouldn't have reached F-30 yet.

F-7 was the Convair Sea Dart, redesignated from the USN F2Y.

F7 isn’t an official thing yet. F35 got its designation from the X35. F47? I think the X plane numbers are at X67 with the X66 being a Boeing demonstration aircraft and X47 was an NG UCAV demonstration program.

 

[swerve]

F7 isn’t an official thing yet. F35 got its designation from the X35. F47? I think the X plane numbers are at X67 with the X66 being a Boeing demonstration aircraft and X47 was an NG UCAV demonstration program.

I know where F-35 got its designation, & it was contrary to the rules of the designation system. F-47 completely ignores the system.