Kidd-class destroyers back on track for Taiwan Navy

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Kidd-class destroyers back on track for Taiwan Navy
U.S. company begins reactivation work on four navy vessels

The United States-based VSE Corporation recently began work on a US$99.9 million contract it was awarded last year to reactivate four Kidd-class destroyers that were purchased by Taiwan in June 2003 amid considerable political controversy.

Work on the vessels will be staggered, with delivery of the first vessel scheduled for the end of 2005, and all four ships slated to be in the hands of Taiwan's navy by March 2007.

Purchased for NT$24 billion, the Kidd-class destroyers were originally considered as alternatives to the more advanced AEGIS-equipped vessels, but are now considered as an interim step to maintain Taiwan's naval strength until the AEGIS-equipped platforms become ready for use in the next 10 years.
The BAV division of VSE Corporation, specialists in restoring military and commercial vessels, began at the beginning of February to rehabilitate the vessels that were decommissioned in 1998 and 1999.

"We are off to a fast start on the Kidd class reactivation project," said Jim Knowlton, VSE executive vice president and director of its international group, in comments e-mailed to Taiwan News. "BAV and its team of subcontractors are focused on demonstrating our ability to provide outstanding worldwide technical service to foreign customers in support of the U.S. Navy's Security Assistance Directorate."

He described the work commissioned by the U.S. government as "a multiyear effort including towing, cold ship reactivation in a U.S. shipyard, logistics, training, crew support, and follow-on logistics and technical support after the transfers are completed."

One of VSE's main competitors, Northrop Grumman, was angry that it didn't win the contract, according to Jane's Defense Weekly.

"No company knows these ships as well as we do, and there are significant factors, such as unique knowledge of the NTU combat system, which reside nowhere else but within Northrop Grumman's domain," a Northrop Grumman spokesman told Jane's.

But VSE Chairman Don Ervine confidently declared his company had the experience and know-how to make the project work.

"Since 1995, BAV has transferred more than 30 ships to foreign governments. That includes the transfer of five ex-U.S. Navy ships to Taiwan," Ervine said last July when the U.S. government made its initial budget release for the project.

"The BAV Team offers worldwide capabilities, including the management of overhauls in foreign shipyards, to accomplish the mission of the Navy's ship transfer program."

At 9,900 tons loaded with a 10-meter draught, the Kidd-class destroyers will fill the military's need for a naval air-defense platform, taking the place of Gearing-class destroyers which will soon be decommissioned.
The destroyer purchase was embroiled in a fierce debate. Opponents of the purchase included members of the legislature's powerful defense committee, which made several attempts to block the sale. Critics cited both the ships' age - they were built more than 20 years ago - and their high cost, and suggested that Taiwan should push the U.S. to release the AEGIS system earlier.

According to Jane's Defense Weekly, the USS Kidd and USS Scott are moored at the Naval Inactive Ship Maintenance Facility in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, and the USS Callahan and USS Chandler are at a similar facility in Bremerton, Washington.

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These are excellent vessels, even though they are relatively old.

They have bee updated comms and systems wise, were tropicalised. Initially on the offer list to Australia about 5 years ago but declined due to a lack of fit and manning issues that weren't complimentary to our force mix.
 
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Or was that declined due to a lack of funding gf? Due to the non-specified force structure issues, and manning problems which again are a direct funding issue, our navy will now not possess a high level air warfare capability until 2013. The FFG's cannot adequately perform this role due to their lack of a 3D radar and they won't spend the money on the ANZAC's to allow them to perform this role. The WIP for the ANZAC's would have provided them with a long range air warfare capability, it would have cost a lot, but not as much as Australian Warships lying on the bottom of the Ocean...
 

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Aussie Digger said:
Or was that declined due to a lack of funding gf? Due to the non-specified force structure issues, and manning problems which again are a direct funding issue, our navy will now not possess a high level air warfare capability until 2013. The FFG's cannot adequately perform this role due to their lack of a 3D radar and they won't spend the money on the ANZAC's to allow them to perform this role. The WIP for the ANZAC's would have provided them with a long range air warfare capability, it would have cost a lot, but not as much as Australian Warships lying on the bottom of the Ocean...
I'd bet that there may be a progressive shift on the AWD's. One of the other negatives for the Kidds was that the Govt was a bit shy of travelling down the second hand market.

The US then offered us 4 x Ticonderogas (rejected) and then finally 3 x Arleigh Burkes (also rejected) due to a variety of issues (mainly 2nd hand stigma, refurb costs and manning costs)
 
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And yet they're lauding the values and use of the 2nd hand LPA's?
 

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yeah, go figure. the westralia is probably going earlier than expected as well.

whoever said that ADF procurement had absolute sense and logic.. ;)
 

darklegent

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I may add that these naval destroyers were actually built for the shah of iran and the class was named after the first ship name KIDD.
 
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