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SolarisKenzo

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Sandhi Yudha said:
Can you maybe add some information/context?
Is it scheduled for commissioning soon?
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It is undergoing minor works before the commissioning ceremony that will take place early 2024 in Trieste ( for obvious reasons, since the ship was named after the city ).
The ship traveled from La Spezia naval base to Trieste, more than 2000km.
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Here's a nice picture made before the ship entered the drydock.
link: https://upload.forumfree.net/i/ff13800141/0000 Trieste 4.jpg
 
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SolarisKenzo

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This is a picture, made last month, of the Riva Trigoso shipyards ( FIncantieri ).
2 FREMMs ( F589 and F598 ), 1 PPA ( P436? ) and a block of the LSS ATLANTE can be seen.
Massive shipbuilding for a relatively small facility.
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Another PPA is almost finished in the La Spezia Muggiano Shipyard.
Between the end of this year and next year, Fincantieri will launch 4-5 major vessels:
2 FREMMs
2 PPAs ( the last two, completing the program )
1 LSS

link:
https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1701873718354407564
 
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SolarisKenzo

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Redlands18

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Italian MoD’s Defence Planning Document 2023-2025: New naval and joint programs - Naval News
The Italian MOD has released a planning document for naval and joint programs, amongst possible new programs, are.
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Evolved FREMM Frigates
Meriv90 said:
An Article making the point of the future of the MMI

www.navalnews.com

Italian MoD’s Defence Planning Document 2023-2025: New naval and joint programs - Naval News

New naval and joint procurement programmes together with additional funding for on-going activities are included in the recently published Italian MoD’s Multi-Year Defence Planning Document (Documento Programmatico Pluriennale della Difesa, DPP) for the 2023-2025 timeframe.
www.navalnews.com www.navalnews.com
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I see they are looking at an evolved FREMM, the FREMM EVO. 3x16,500t LPDs, will be interesting to see if they are a Through Deck design or a more traditional aft flight deck.
 
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swerve

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The new amphibious ships will replace the three Santi, much smaller through-deck LPDs. That doesn't guarantee that they'll be through-deck, though.

Amphibs with a dock & a full length deck have traditionally been called LHDs, following USN classifications. I think the Santi didn't because they were too small & with no hangar. Tbh, I think they're a bit difficult to fit into the standard USN terminology.

It's fairly typical of what the Marina Militare is doing at the moment, e.g. Giuseppe Garibaldi, a very small Harrier-carrier, is being replaced by Trieste, an LHD with over twice the displacement.
 
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SolarisKenzo

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Redlands18 said:
Italian MoD’s Defence Planning Document 2023-2025: New naval and joint programs - Naval News
The Italian MOD has released a planning document for naval and joint programs, amongst possible new programs, are.
LAUVs
Evolved FREMM Frigates

I see they are looking at an evolved FREMM, the FREMM EVO. 3x16,500t LPDs, will be interesting to see if they are a Through Deck design or a more traditional aft flight deck.
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Yes, FREMM EVOs were fitted into this year's budget (only preliminary costs ofc) and are expected to start building process in the next years.
Speculations are:
- same dual band radar as on the PPAs (X and C band, 4 fixed faces)
- still 16 or 32 VLS ( 16xA50 for Aster 30B1NT and possibly 16xA70 for SCALP NAVAL and/or FC/ASW)
- focused on ASW capabilities, same 1x127mm and 1x76mm artillery.

swerve said:
The new amphibious ships will replace the three Santi, much smaller through-deck LPDs. That doesn't guarantee that they'll be through-deck, though.

Amphibs with a dock & a full length deck have traditionally been called LHDs, following USN classifications. I think the Santi didn't because they were too small & with no hangar. Tbh, I think they're a bit difficult to fit into the standard USN terminology.

It's fairly typical of what the Marina Militare is doing at the moment, e.g. Giuseppe Garibaldi, a very small Harrier-carrier, is being replaced by Trieste, an LHD with over twice the displacement.
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Rumors are that the new ships (that, by the way, shouldn't be far from the start of the building process) won't be full-deck but instead classical LPD design, just like (its just an example of course, the two classes are completely different in size) the San Antonio.
 
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