Indonesia: 'green water navy'

Sandhi Yudha

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Republikorp clearly the main Indonesian MIC that going to get most of defense JV with Turkiye (on Private sector). It is been shown in IndoDefence that Republikorp will work on two SSM with Roketsan, Atmaca which is similar class with Exocet MM40 and Cakir which is in the class C705.

Seems the progress of reverse engineering C705 as National Missile program, not progressing much. Thus Cakir license production just like C705 will be aim to be operate from Fast Missile Boats. While Exocet MM40 and Atmaca will be for Corvette and Frigate types.
Big chance that the C705-copy program is not just progressing slowly or put on hold, but is totally cancelled at all, and that only a handful of missiles are bought for the first two ships of the KCR-60 Sampari Class.

Btw, it is really got that the four Claud Jones destroyer-escorts were taken out if service many years ago (if i am not wrong around 2003). They were not only old, worn out and obsolete, but also full of asbest.
USS Claud Jones (DE-1033) | Asbestos Ships
 

Ananda

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TNI-AL FB page put video of UK CSG transiting Indonesia waters from Australia to East Asia. Following the CSG is one of Sigma 10514 light frigate. If not mistaken, this ship also involved with Talisman Sabre exercise.

Seems the video taken from TNI-AL CN-235 MPA.

@Sandhi Yudha it is very probable the C705 reverse engineering project being hold, however from what I gather it is still nominally open project. From what I gather, they still having trouble to achieve stable guidance systems. Perhaps working with Roketsan also include off set for guidance system.
 
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Ananda

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Video of KRI Brawijaya left La Spezia couple days ago. Now Fincantieri waiting for another crew set for KRI Siliwangi the sister ship. Schedule by end of this year.
 

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More as to playing catching up, similar thing with what Philipines done. Roughly 2/3 of the fleet still come from 70's and 80's and new assets actually still racing with obsolescense rate from those 70's and 80's.

Problem with budget and production capacity force MinDef to go with refurbishment project (R-41), to upgrade 41 vessels mostly come from 70's-80's era. Thus
Indonesia is modernising at a fast pace!
actually in my opinion still not fast enough.

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Defenart X upload foto shown one of KCR60 from private yard already have their Aselsan made sensors fitted. Inficating those KCR will be equiped by Turkiye SSM (potentially Cakir).

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This KRI Belati is part of new breed Missile Boats, build by Private Yards, with speed actually surpassing KCR 60 from PAL version. This one build by Tesco Information yard. Just like another version of KCR 60 build currently by Palindo. They are using Hybrid Water Jet propulsion systems, instead more traditional propeller (as in PAL KCR60), make them can run 10 knots faster.

However they are still using CODAD, compare KCR 70 that being build in Turkiye that using CODAG. Indication so far shown those new missile boats will use Aselsan sensors and Roketsan missiles. Something that Thales and MBDA sales agent don't like as taking out portion of their traditional market.
 
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Ananda

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From Keris FB

Seems someone takes effort going at night to video FMP progress yesterday. Well let's see if they can catch up with October schedule for launch. In my opinion they are still more or less comparable with Babcock that launch their first Type 31 two months ago, while having first steel cut close a year before PAL FMP first steel cut.

Seems Keris FB also got the video from this FB:

This is more lengthy and seems two ships being assembly within same Dock.
 
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Ananda

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Already put this slide sometime ago in this thread. Yesterday PAL conduct media gathering and shown this slide again with emphasis of Aircraft Carrier. This means LHD as Drones, Helicopter and VTOL Aircraft Carrier.

They are claiming at 2027 onward they are ready for construction that LHD. This seems related toward their docks capacity that supposedly already clear from present projects of FMP and Philipines and UAE LPD's.

Not much talk on the Destroyer and KSSI submarines, suggest in my opinion those are still further programs later on. As I mention before both design shown strong resemblances with Hanwha Ocean designs. I suspect Hanwha Ocean still conduct negotiations with PAL. Perhaps those KSSI submarine will be 209-1400 batch 2 replacement program.

Add Hanwha Destroyer design.
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Ananda

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An enthusiasts FB page put this couple days ago on the progress of Palindo KCR 60. Just like Tesco Indomaritim or Noahtu, it is shown that private yards will handle more construction of OPV/Corvettes and Missile/Patrol boats size. While PAL as their slide on previous post will focus on larger vessels of Frigate above.

Keel laying conducted a year ago, and base on the progress seems it will be launch months ahead.
 

Ananda

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KRI Brawijaya entering Alexandria Egypt. This is the second stopover after first stop over at Mersin Turkiye. If info is right, she will making stopover at Saudi, UAE, and Srilanka before entering Indonesia waters.

Prabowo's want to use this ship as part of maritime diplomacy and from what I heard, Fincantieri also fully support (as they are still support this ferry sail from La Spezia to Surabaya), as it is can be use for their marketing show case. This what make all the journey taking a month.
 
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