Indonesia: 'green water navy'

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From Keris FB, seems PAL on the process to install Aselsan CENK 350/Matehan Fixed Array AESA radar panels. This confirm so far that the installation will begin with Assets that part of Initial-Main contract. FFBNW assets, eventough the contract already execute, will be part on next instalation cycle.

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From Indonesia Forum FB with id Markicap. Shown the 76mm main gun of OPV-98 is being tested.


The main force of TNI-AL is not the Frigates, but more on the Corvettes and Missile Boats. Presently it is the Parchim Corvettes and Luersen design FPB-57 FMB/FPB. Those FPB-57 being replace by indigenous designs KCR/KCP-60. More and more signs also shown Parchim corvettes replacement will be OPV-98 and Bung Hatta Light Corvette.

Three OPV-98 already contracted, 2 in the process of final installation, while the third still in building process in Batam. Batam made Bung Hatta class is not popular among many local enthusiats, however it is I believe more economical to build. In the end I don't think only one type will be choose to replace all 16 Parchim and also increase the number of Corvettes.
 
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From Keris FB on the Critical Design phase between BTI and SMP for the SRV and Mothership. They are hoping to finish critical design phase by June this year, before moving to production stages.
 
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Found this in X from id Kristian Lobo who take picture of both SIGMA PKR 10514 being berth together with both PPA. Shown how PPA dwarved SIGMA PKR Light Frigate.

Some enthusiats talk about SIGMA PKR is the largest TNI-AL combatant ships before PPA being procure. However that's mistaken as the largest TNI-AL combatant was Van Speijk class Frigate before PPA enter operational TNI-AL portfolio.

Both PPA and FMP/Arrowhead 140 will become the mainstay of TNI-AL Frigate force. The FMP already got greenlight for 2nd batch of two. Will then PPA got greenlight for 2nd batch also ? Fincantieri work hard on that, and seems will face NG offer for FDI. Both NG and Fincantieri off course offer with local production.

Altough Turkiye Istiff already being talked on getting contract for Indonesia, however the nature of financing packages is not clear yet. The contract also is through UAE brokerage firm (that also order M346 and PC-24), thus mean the financing package that the brokerage firm offer not final yet with Indonesia finance guys. Until the financing packages got green light, meet finance guys criteria threshold, means it is not final effective contract yet.
 
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Japan Defense Minister meet his Indonesia counterpart in Narita, during his counterpart transit flight from Washington DC. Put it in this thread as it is rumours that Japan want to export maritime defence assets to Indonesia as part Japan defence export initiatives and diplomacy toward southern Indies routes. Will see if 4+4 Mogami offer back to table, as also 2-4 second hand Oyashio SSK.

Rumours talk that Turkiye Istiff Frigate deal for Indonesia find substantial hurdle on Financing. Especially as the Gulf Financial Institution that want to back it up, now retreating due to US/Israel-Iran war. Present situation make Gulf FI did not want to further their financial exposure with relatively lower credit rating customers (compare to UAE or Qatar) which Indonesia and Turkiye belong to. Indonesia has BBB rating which altough Investment grade but on lower end. While Turkiye is BB which fall outside Investment Grade. Thus Turkiye really need Gulf FI to back their export financing packages, as their own FI will be hard pressed to provide competitive financing packages.

In other hand, Japan mostly can relied on their own AI that are global class and can easily provide competitive financing packages. So could Mogami replacing Istiff deal ? This why I repeatedly say in Indonesian thread. No matter how far the marketing lobby being done with Indonesian MinDef, in the end Finance Guys in Bapenas and MoF will provide final say to the President. Especially when they are satisfied on which Financing Package of the assets being marketed.
 
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From a regional point of view, another 4, or 8, Mogamis, to add to Australia’s intended 11 and a posssible sale of two or hopefully three to NZ, would be an excellent thing. The sheer size of the potential Mogami fleet, 35 ships or so, would improve logistics and make the cost of upgrades less, and there would be terrific interoperability benefits - so here’s hoping.
 
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The last time Japan offer Mogami on 4+4 scheme to Indonesia, it is lost to Italia with 6 FREMM. The FREMM deal then change to only 2 PPA, but with option more build in Fincantieri local partner yard at Batam.

One of main reason that I heard why Italia got the deal is the financing packages that Italia and Fincantieri can offer. Japan FI actually can provide more competitive packages then Euro FI. However when the offer come during Covid era, Japan FI still not really behind their Government effort on defense export. Japan FI still unsure on the internal politics for exporting defense equipment.

Now seems they are more wiling to support their government defense export Drive due to continue changes on Japan internal politics https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/japans-decade-long-march-towards-arms-exports-2026-04-15/. In sense Japan FI seems have more confidence that they will not get internal political backlash with supporting defense export.

Still Japan in Frigate deal in my opinion has to face Fincantieri and NG offer. I don't put Babcock as competitor as FMP actually being build more as Air Defense Frigate, thus not really in same catagory with more GP and ASW Frigate that PPA, FDI, Istiff and Mogami being marketed for. Indonesia also more familiar with Euro Naval system. So Japan in my opinion going to face uphill battle in Indonesia against more familiar Euro suppliers.
 
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Slide from Yudi Supriyono FB

Danantara as the owner of all Indonesia SOE (State Owned Enterprise) shown slide on Investment plan this year and next from Defend ID. This is their subsidiaries that act as holding company for all SOE defense industry. They are doing Investment in two way, first PMN means they added the capital as direct placement. Other through non PMN which I presume it is more likely being done through share holder loan or financing.

In this thread I try to focus on item #8 and #9 of PMN Investment. This the talk for PAL to gain new facilities as expansion of yards (#8) and expansion of submarine facilities (#9). #9 shown that the facility that initialy being build to cater for DSME 209-1400 has to be adjusted for NG Scorpene Evo. #8 has been talk for sometimes, as present PAL facility is not sufficient enough anymore to handle more jobs.

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It is speculate before that PAL will take over private shipyard in Batam. However seems it is going to be still in East Java, at Lamongan Regency that still close to present PAL facilities in Surabaya city. The photo from PAL FB.

I presume PAL taking over shipyards in the area call PT. Lamongan Marine Industry and PT. Dok Pantai Lamongan https://jatimnow.com/baca-83857-pt-pal-ekspansi-ke-lamongan-siapkan-workshop-baru-dan-beasiswa-warga. It is relative small shipyard but from what I gather have relative large are to develop.

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Thus this is also reflected with previous announcement that PAL will become holding PAL Bakal Jadi Induk Holding BUMN Galangan Kapal, Bagaimana Nasib Karyawan? company for all SOE Shipyard. Considering despite all PAL problem, they are still the largest and healthiest SOE shipyard. Thus the capital I presume going to use on acquisition of new shipyards, and consolidation of all SOE Shipyard.
 
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