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Indonesia To Receive First Fincantieri PPA In September – Asian Defence Journal

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Asia Defence Journal talk with Fincantieri officials during IndoDefence. Basically it sum up:

1. TNI-AL first PPA KRI Brawidjaja will leave Italy by end of next month. Predict to be inducted into TNI-AL fleet by early September. While the second one KRI Siliwangi schedulle to hand over by end of this year.
2. Indonesia intention for Garibaldi light carrier has potential close to fruition. As expected Indonesia will use Garibaldi as drone carrier.

It is expexted as Drone carrier, Garibaldi will be equiped by Bayraktar TB3. In booth of Republikorp, mock up of TB3 being shown as part of licensing agreement betwen Baykar and Republikorp for assembly agreement.

 

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PT PAL Tampilkan Desain Multi Role Support Ship (MRSS) - LPD dengan Panjang 163 Meter dan Bobot 14.000 Ton

Bersamaan dengan proyek pembangunan Landing Platform Dock (LPD) pesanan Uni Emirat Arab (UEA) Al Maryah class, PT PAL Indonesia dalam Indo Defence 2024 juga ikut mempromosikan platform LPD tersebut untuk pasar ekspor, khususnya untuk kawasan Asia Tenggara. Baca juga: Mulai Dibangun 2024, Uni...

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This local online military site talk about design for UAE Al Maryah, which's now PAL Officially market it as MRSS. PAL and Lunas also team up to put this design for Malaysia relaunch MRSS bid. Lunas from my understanding will conduct final assembly, with some modules from PAL.

Malaysia's Navy Finalizing Multi-Role Support Ship Requirements - Naval News

A Royal Malaysian Navy representative said the service was still finalizing its detailed requirements for its future Multi-Role Support Ship - MRSS

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The design now 14,000 tons and it is seems more then Makasar LPD with steroids.

 

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Xavier Video on FMP (Red White Frigate) with PAL chief designer. Basically PAL with Babcock assistance adjust around 60% of the design due to changes at:

1. Radars and integrated mast as they are now using mostly Aselsan and some Leonardo sensors (change from Thales on original Arrowhead 140),
2. Dimensions as FMP around 2 meters longer then basic design (make it 140m),
3. Propulsion as TNI AL want bit faster speed. I also recheck from other source that basic speed increase by 2 knots,
4. The possition B now have second Leonardo 76mm, thus heavier then possition B on basic Arrowhead 140,
5. Last one is the number of VLS being increase to 64 and also ommiting angle launch SSM to become all Vertical Launch. Midlas VLS from what I gather is in similar size against Sylver and Mk 41.

This increase the full weight to 6600 tons. This from other source that I gather make FMP AAW specialist Frigate, altough it is still maintain ASW and ASuW capabilities. Aselsan radar all fixed array at integrated mast. Making them heavier then integrated mast on basic Arrowhead 140.

The design already final, and this is clear reason why Frenchie Salesman always bitter in his channels and article about this Frigate. Basically all his sales products (MBDA and Thales) being replace by Roketsan, Havelsan and Aselsan. While Leonardo still maintain piece of pies in this FMP contract.

The downturn it is adding more than a year design adjustment to the previous schedulle. With this FMP become AAW Frigate, I don't know if they still need to add Type 52 from China as plan for AAW Destroyer or getting another batch of 2 for this FMP design.

 

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Xavier Video on FMP (Red White Frigate) with PAL chief designer. Basically PAL with Babcock assistance adjust around 60% of the design due to changes at:

1. Radars and integrated mast as they are now using mostly Aselsan and some Leonardo sensors (change from Thales on original Arrowhead 140),
2. Dimensions as FMP around 2 meters longer then basic design (make it 140m),
3. Propulsion as TNI AL want bit faster speed. I also recheck from other source that basic speed increase by 2 knots,
4. The possition B now have second Leonardo 76mm, thus heavier then possition B on basic Arrowhead 140,
5. Last one is the number of VLS being increase to 64 and also ommiting angle launch SSM to become all Vertical Launch. Midlas VLS from what I gather is in similar size against Sylver and Mk 41.

This increase the full weight to 6600 tons. This from other source that I gather make FMP AAW specialist Frigate, altough it is still maintain ASW and ASuW capabilities. Aselsan radar all fixed array at integrated mast. Making them heavier then integrated mast on basic Arrowhead 140.

The design already final, and this is clear reason why Frenchie Salesman always bitter in his channels and article about this Frigate. Basically all his sales products (MBDA and Thales) being replace by Roketsan, Havelsan and Aselsan. While Leonardo still maintain piece of pies in this FMP contract.

The downturn it is adding more than a year design adjustment to the previous schedulle. With this FMP become AAW Frigate, I don't know if they still need to add Type 52 from China as plan for AAW Destroyer or getting another batch of 2 for this FMP design.

So this modified and enlarged design is actual closer to the original Iver Huitveldt design, than the Arrowhead 140/Type 31.

The Iver had also double OTO Melara 76 mm guns at A and B position, had more launch cells (32-cell Mk41 + 12-cell Mk56), was also 6600 ton fully loaded and had a topspeed of 28 kts.

 

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this modified and enlarged design is actual closer to the original Iver Huitveldt design, than the Arrowhead 140/Type 31.

Just like Danes configure Iver more as AAW Frigate, seems this is also what TNI-AL plan to do with FMP. Question will be if the SAM missile that going to be equiped will be more for Short to Medium or long range. From what I gather potentially more to Short-Medium range first.

Just like TNI-AU that has NASAMS with AIM 120, TNI-AD Trisula system in begining will also equiped more with Hisar O/RF that has similar range between 25-40 Km. TNI-AL FMP Midlas also reported potentially will be equiped with similar HisarO/RF. While their PPA potentialy also will be equiped with similar range Aster 15. All three then operating 25-40 km range SAM.

There're talk for Hisar U/Siper and Aster 30, but seems it will be for next round budget allocation. Roketsan already shown their Midlas can accomodate both Hisar O and Siper, just like Sylver for Aster 15 and 30. Will see what type of Midlas and Sylver that being procure, as rumours say the Light + PPA equiped with Sylver 43 and not 50. Means only can be equiped by Aster 15.

Video on KRI Brawijaya trial in Italy with TNI-AL crew. Just got a feeling if TNI-AL PPA equiped with Aster 15, then potentialy FMP will also be equiped with similar class Hisar O/RF. Still it is already improvement then VL Mica and Mistral.

From what I heard TNI still want to evaluate Siper as it is relatively new, while Hisar O/RF already operational for some time TCG Istanbul (F 515) Fires HİSAR-D RF Missile from MİDLAS | TURDEF. Personally I see it more to budget issue. Having 25-40 km SAM is in the end more economics then 80-100+km SAM. Also more importantly TNI can done gradual learning from Shorad to Short Range then Medium Range before operating long range theater defence SAM.