Indon Name on Aussie Ship?

[marxist_command]

I was searching at http://www.navy.gov.au/fleet/lch.html for clues about Aussie's Navy When I found something interesting. I mentioned 6 LCH from Aussie navy which 3 of them use indon name (balikpapan,tarakan,labuan). The 3 ship history didn't have any connection with Indonesian's Navy. Did someone know bout this ?

 

[renjer]

I think you will find that the Australians fought in those places during WWII. The vessels are named to commemorate the battles. BTW, I believe the Labuan referred to here is to Labuan island in Malaysia rather than the Labuan near Jakarta. Someone correct me if I am wrong.

 

[RubiconNZ]

Nope youre right they were all amphibious or semi amphib landings to help retake the pacific and it was Labuan Island off Borneo, my geography there isn't to good but..

 

[marxist_command]

Nope youre right they were all amphibious or semi amphib landings to help retake the pacific and it was Labuan Island off Borneo, my geography there isn't to good but..

Do you mean the vessel wa an ex-WWII? I think it just reffered to the vessel who fought on that day

BTW you're right, Labuan is an Island off Borneo

 

[abramsteve]

Nah mate, the ships themselves are named after the battles and landings that took place during the war, which involved Australian forces.

The ships arent leftovers from the war!!

 

[Big-E]

Do you mean the vessel was an ex-WWII?

No, but your navy's major surface combatents aren't much newer. How are those procurements going? Replaced anything over 2,000ts yet?

 

[RubiconNZ]

Since we are on the topic...

Are there any planned replacements of the LCH's they must be getting long in the tooth by now, I don't know of any thing that could replace it except a same of type rebuild or something similar.

 

[contedicavour]

No, but your navy's major surface combatents aren't much newer. How are those procurements going? Replaced anything over 2,000ts yet?

I've read a lot about Russian light frigates being proposed to Indonesia since any additional Dutch ships would cost too much.
If relations with the US were to continue to improve, the best that could happen to Indonesia would be delivery of several OH Perrys. Another alternative would be to buy used corvettes from South Korea as their new DDGs become operational...

cheers

 

[Aussie Digger]

Are there any planned replacements of the LCH's they must be getting long in the tooth by now, I don't know of any thing that could replace it except a same of type rebuild or something similar.

The Sea 2048 Amphibious vessel project (LHD's) Phase 3 is funded and designed to replace ALL our existing amhibious watercraft variants including LCH's, LCM8's, LARC-V and NLE (whatever that is)

Kanimbla/Manoora/Tobruk, even the new watercraft that ADI only just finished building will be replaced under Phase 4...

Details can be found here:

http://www.defence.gov.au/dmo/adas/jp2048ph3/index.cfm

and here:

http://www.defence.gov.au/dmo/msd/jp2048/jp2048ph4.cfm

 

[alexsa]

The Sea 2048 Amphibious vessel project (LHD's) Phase 3 is funded and designed to replace ALL our existing amhibious watercraft variants including LCH's, LCM8's, LARC-V and NLE (whatever that is)

NLE = Naval Lighterage Equipment. Basically a small flat barge that provide a platform at the side of a ship or on the stern ramp as an intermediery between the larger vessels (Tobruk or LPH) and vessels like the LCH. Tobruk was built wiht connections in the side water line strake that would allow this sort of gear to be hooked on and winched up side ways against the hull. I don't know if it has ever been carried that way.

 

[Aussie Digger]

NLE = Naval Lighterage Equipment. Basically a small flat barge that provide a platform at the side of a ship or on the stern ramp as an intermediery between the larger vessels (Tobruk or LPH) and vessels like the LCH. Tobruk was built wiht connections in the side water line strake that would allow this sort of gear to be hooked on and winched up side ways against the hull. I don't know if it has ever been carried that way.

I see. I remember seeing those things connected to Tobruk when I went on my excruciating Journey on her. They do not inspire confidence I can tell you. Especially when transferring vehicles between Tobruk and an LCH...

 

[alexsa]

Yep, sort of like walking over a swaying suspension bridge, makes dirvers very edgy. It works but a dock is much better. Role on the LHD.

 

[Whiskyjack]

I see. I remember seeing those things connected to Tobruk when I went on my excruciating Journey on her. They do not inspire confidence I can tell you. Especially when transferring vehicles between Tobruk and an LCH...

I think the UK use the barges, Mexeflotes I think they are called.

 

[alexsa]

I think the UK use the barges, Mexeflotes I think they are called.

The Tobruk is a modified Sir Bedivere class design and the NLE built for her copies the UK gear. There is some NLE around that is motorised as well. It is not deep sea it just allows te barge to be shuttled around the mother ship.

 

[swerve]

I think the UK use the barges, Mexeflotes I think they are called.

Ocean uses them, & so do the Bay-class, although the latter have a floodable dock & two small landing craft. I don't think Albion & Bulwark have 'em. I think Mexeflotes aren't considered suitable for opposed landings, only for landing stuff once a beach has been secured.