Armage, you can make a general comparison here (but don't trust everything you see, there are some errors on this site):armage said:How small is the LCA?
Compared to the Mirage 2000 and MiG-21...
http://www.airtoaircombat.com/compare.asp
Armage, you can make a general comparison here (but don't trust everything you see, there are some errors on this site):armage said:How small is the LCA?
Compared to the Mirage 2000 and MiG-21...
Tech demonstrator???adsH said:Pak-FA, has been canceled it was developed as a tech Demonstrator,IAF doesn't need to revive the program since Russia is offering newer better Fighter programs. LCA is still too young and INdia scapability interms of Developing High-tech Avionics is still intermediate.So i would think LCA's next upgrade which should be after its induction after 2015 should really make the Fighter Effective-in Ariel defense.
It was the S-37 Berkut project which was cancelled.many of its techs would go into the Pak-Fa,which will fly by 2010.adsH said:Pak-FA, has been canceled it was developed as a tech Demonstrator,IAF doesn't need to revive the program since Russia is offering newer better Fighter programs. LCA is still too young and INdia scapability interms of Developing High-tech Avionics is still intermediate.So i would think LCA's next upgrade which should be after its induction after 2015 should really make the Fighter Effective-in Ariel defense.
S-40 (Su-37) Birkut was the technology demonstrator competed to US's some swept forward "X" series tech demonstrator by Northorp Grummen. Both failed & got cancelled but did give way to new tecnology.adsH said:Pak-FA, has been canceled it was developed as a tech Demonstrator,IAF doesn't need to revive the program since Russia is offering newer better Fighter programs. LCA is still too young and INdia scapability interms of Developing High-tech Avionics is still intermediate.So i would think LCA's next upgrade which should be after its induction after 2015 should really make the Fighter Effective-in Ariel defense.
Exactly. What I believe (as the online sources indicate) is it would fly by 2009-2010 and would be available for export by 2012. Let's see if India tries to buy it or not.SABRE said:Pak-FA cant fail right now as it has not even conducted a test yet.
Aren't the indians making it in collaboration with the russians adn thus they obviously will induct them into the IAF??Exactly. What I believe (as the online sources indicate) is it would fly by 2009-2010 and would be available for export by 2012. Let's see if India tries to buy it or not.
190 Su-30mki is very large noajay_ijn said:By 2015 i suppose India will be getting the first Pak-FA or signing the deal if everything went as planned i.e first prototype by 2010 and operational by 2013 or 2014.
If Pak-FA is delayed India will be buying some other fighter by 2015 may be EF-2000 or someother.
by 2015
190 Su-30MKI
70 Mig-29 (Upgraded to SMT)
175 Mirage-2005
200 Mig-27 and jaguar
70 LCA
Still falls short of some 100 aircraft if she retires all Mig-21 bison.
Looks like IAF will surely have less squardons by 2015.
So we can predict that IAF will buy some 50 new aircraft by 2015 to fill the gap.It will mostly sign in 2011 or 2012.
What about helicopters?
By 2015
50 Mi-26 and Mi-17
100 ALH
50 LCH
50 Ka-50 and Mi-35
50 new assault helicopters to replace Mi-17.
Please do read info about Su-30MKI before making such statements.190 Su-30mki is very large no
End Result : IAF will eventually acquire a total of 190 Su-30MKI. Out of these 50 will be made in Russia by Irkutsk Aircraft Production Association (IAPO) while the rest will be produced in India by Hindustan Aeronautics Limited (HAL). Production might be increased if necessary. HAL chairman Nalini Ranjan Mohanty has said that the Indian-built Su-30s will cost only about $22.5 million a unit against the current import price of about $37.5 million [Financial Express, 10-Dec-2001].
Number of LCA is a prediction.not more then 120 LCAs,200 Mig-29s.
I think Prototype would be out by 2013 and production would begin by 2015-2017 and IAF might buy them by 2018.No MCA till 2020.
True,but by 2015 IAF will atleast have 160 MKI's.According to AFM the Deliveries of the 140 SU30mki would end near around 2017-18 this is from the experts who know the Air Forces they talk about you’ve got to read up this Month’s AFM there are detailed sections about the IAF procurements. IAF just finished up with there first Indigenously Assembled (Russian kit) Flanker.
Those are for Navy not for Airforce.Maybe a squadron of Tu-22M3 bombers??