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Sender

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USCG selects Canadian design for up to six new icebreakers:



Note this is a derivative of the Multi-purpose Icebreaker of the Canadian Coast Guard, of which 16 are contracted to be built in the next 10 years, after the heavy Polar icebreaker is completed.


Note as well that a Davie design has also been selected by the USCG for 6 additional vessels based on their Multi-purpose polar support ship (MPPS). Less information available on that one, but it appears it was based on a Finish design that Davie inherited when they bought Helsinki Shipyards in 2022.
 

FormerDirtDart

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Dropping this in General Naval News as it is a multinational ship program (Belgian, Dutch & France), and it's on the lead ship of the City-class which will serve with the Belgian Navy and I couldn't locate the Belgian Navy thread (lol)
Anyway, Belgian Navy tweets sharing images of the mine countermeasure vessel Oostende
https://x.com/TheBelgianNavy/status/1979204364074889428 (ship & bridge)
https://x.com/TheBelgianNavy/status/1979204369338794185 (quarters, operations (?), CIC, bridge controls)
https://x.com/TheBelgianNavy/status/1979204375311434059 (refueling (?), mess, recreational space)
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Nine total images and they're all quite large so just thumbnailing the first one
 

Ananda

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Xavier on European Corvette Program. Corvette now days more or less aim for Light Frigate size and configuration. Call me sceptic, when I see a program being call as Euro Program with more then few shipyards involve, I just thinking how many Euro Program that the partners in the end goes seperate ways.
 

Ananda

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Two picture of what seems final rendering for Arrowhead 140 derivatives. First Poland Miecznik Frigate, and second Indonesia Red-White Frigate (FMP). Miecznik use 32 US Mk41 VLS cell, while FMP use 64 Turkey Midlas VLS cell.

Both in this present configuration will have heavier armament then RN Type 31. Shown flexibility of the design originate from Danish Iver class.

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All rendering done by enthusiasts using official information.
 

Ananda

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Basically it will be bespoke submarine but base on current HHI design. Not clear much on the design, as Hyundai and SIMA will still work it out final design. However there's rumour that the design will be base on smaller KSSIII export design (2000 ton class).
 

koxinga

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New photos emerge of KJN visiting the construction of the new North Korean "nuclear" submarine.

While the earlier "Hero Kim Gun-ok" submarine was likely to be a modification of an existing Romeo boat, this looks more like a new build, but still based on the original Romeo design, but probably enhanced. Vent holes are different.

As for the very telling elongated mast for the SLBMs (10?), i think we are seeing this because of the diameter/beam of the hull. It is narrow (?~7 meters). We have good proxies of how a diesel SSB should look like without that odd sail; their arch-enemy South Korea and the KSSIII Batch 2, with a 9.6 meter beam.


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Ananda

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The Missile located in sail. It could be 2 row 5x2 launcher or 5 single row launcher. I suspect the later as Kim want to put large missile there that able to reach US West Coast.



This the development that push (according to Kim) DPRK to develop Nuclear Power Submarine. The actual more likely the other way around.
 
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Ananda

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If they manage to get their Pukguksong 6 operational as intended, then potentially it can get 12000 Km or 8000 miles.

The best current candidate for deployment on the SSBN is the largest SLBM thus far revealed by North Korea, presumably designated the Pukguksong-6. It was first paraded in April 2022 but not yet flight-tested. Based on its size (about 13 meters long and 2.2 meters in diameter), this missile, in theory, could be capable of a range of upwards of about 12,000 km (comparable to the similar-size 1990 US Trident-II/D5 SLBM)—enough to strike all of the continental US from waters close to North Korea. (The North probably would use a taller “turtleback” missile section to accommodate a 13-meters-long missile and its ejection and launch gear in a sub with an 11.5-12.5 meter- diameter hull.)
It is the SLBM that speculate being intended for this SSBN. In which looking the speculation size on parade pictures, seems the Submarine could only put 5 of them in single row behind the sail. We don't know if their intended SLBM can reach that range. However if they could, then they can reach US Western Coast.
 

koxinga

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This is making rounds. Yes, containers, lots of them, from those with a AESA radar, to plenty of VLS to a Type 1130 and decoys.

Unsure if this is real or someone's movie set.

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koxinga

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If they manage to get their Pukguksong 6 operational as intended, then potentially it can get 12000 Km or 8000 miles.

It is the SLBM that speculate being intended for this SSBN. In which looking the speculation size on parade pictures, seems the Submarine could only put 5 of them in single row behind the sail. We don't know if their intended SLBM can reach that range. However if they could, then they can reach US Western Coast.
Thanks. Sutton speculated on a "large" submarine (H I Sutton - Covert Shores), but I am unsure if this is the same one.

If they indeed design for Pukguksong 6 (~13 m) and this is that boat, the sail is indeed unusual, because the beam should have been wide enough to support a milder "hump". We have US Ohio and UK Vanguard class as reference as they both field Trident D5 (13.5 metre) and they do not have a massive sail.
 

spoz

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If that sail is not free flooding, they are going to have an interesting stability situation when diving or surfacing!
 

OldTex

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This is making rounds. Yes, containers, lots of them, from those with a AESA radar, to plenty of VLS to a Type 1130 and decoys.

Unsure if this is real or someone's movie set.

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While commentators on several other fora have derided this development as completely unsuitable as a warship, they seem to have ignored both the possible use as strike or AAW supplement to the PLA-N as well as the increased targeting difficulty it creates for opponents. With a degree more "camouflage" (more shielding containers, change of flag and less obvious radar and comms) it becomes another "commercial" vessel just like the Kormoran in WW2.
 
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