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Sandhi Yudha

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At the Paris Air Show NHI presented the new Sea Tiger variant of its NH-90. Hopefully this variant will be more reliable than previous models.

 
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Sandhi Yudha

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Is there any real indication it will be?
Well, they didn't say "this latest batch is much more reliable than the previous batches which were horrible", but it would be stupid if NHIndustries didn't improve anything in all those years of production.

So, to answer your question, to me there is no indication at all the new NH90s will be more reliable.
 

koxinga

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Well, scuttlebutt has it that the Argies are in Denmark looking at the possibility of acquiring the Iver Huifedt used. Didn't see it coming.
 

koxinga

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Just the one? Or all three?
Unclear. It appears to be a Danish offer, although the Argies have been exploring options such as Italian ones. Fincantieri S.p.A has been trying to flog Maestrale to the Indonesians for an interim need and even FREMMs (because Marina Militare wants to avoid a costly mid-life upgrade). I presume those would be on the table.

Personally, I'll file it under the unlikely category given the financing required. But then again, we were all skeptical of a F-16 deal until it happened.
 

Sandhi Yudha

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Well, scuttlebutt has it that the Argies are in Denmark looking at the possibility of acquiring the Iver Huifedt used. Didn't see it coming.
I wonder why Denmark even want to sell one of their best ships. A replacement will not come soon.

Unclear. It appears to be a Danish offer, although the Argies have been exploring options such as Italian ones. Fincantieri S.p.A has been trying to flog Maestrale to the Indonesians for an interim need and even FREMMs (because Marina Militare wants to avoid a costly mid-life upgrade). I presume those would be on the table.

Personally, I'll file it under the unlikely category given the financing required. But then again, we were all skeptical of a F-16 deal until it happened.
Big chance that a very big part of their defence budget is used for the second hand F-16s. So the navy will be very lucky if there is still some left over for a Maestrale class ship.
 

koxinga

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I wonder why Denmark even want to sell one of their best ships. A replacement will not come soon.
Because this. It is not final, of course, just comments about repurposing and the chief was explicit that no plans to sell. However, those problems mentioned might not deter a lesser regional navy that does not have to face complex threats.

 

Ananda

The Bunker Group


Seems it is going to be use as Type 42 destroyers replacement. Whether it is 2 of 3 being sought, or the Iver being offer will still with current sensors, weapon and systems remain to be seen. However previously Denmark plan to reduce the system and sensors as they plan to reduce Iver from AAW to Patrol duties.
 

Sandhi Yudha

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The two new OPVs for the Nigerian Navy are already in the sea acceptance phase and will be delivered soon to Nigeria. The new 56 meter long Tuzla Class patrolboat will also be delivered this year. The Aradu fregat is currently under modernization and overhaul, and will be modified to a combat trainingship.
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More information of the new OPVs can be found here.
Nigeria Set to Receive Two Turkish-made Patrol Vessels in 2025
 
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swerve

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Unclear. It appears to be a Danish offer, although the Argies have been exploring options such as Italian ones. Fincantieri S.p.A has been trying to flog Maestrale to the Indonesians for an interim need and even FREMMs (because Marina Militare wants to avoid a costly mid-life upgrade). I presume those would be on the table.

Personally, I'll file it under the unlikely category given the financing required. But then again, we were all skeptical of a F-16 deal until it happened.
The odd thing is that this is linked to the head of the navy saying he wants to give up trying to fix the CMS, & instead buy new ships. That'd hardly encourage anyone to buy them. They'd either have to accept limited functionality, or replace the CMS. And if they can replace it, why doesn't the Danish navy want to? The ships have been in commission for 13 years, so they're not ancient. I think a CMS which'd work with their systems is available off the shelf.
 

koxinga

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The Iver uses the Terma C-Flex CMS, and the sub systems (76mm A gun, ESSM, APAR) are mature technologies on their own. It is either a maintenance issue or an undetected system integration issue that escaped acceptance testing. Both are fixable and they can hold the contractors responsible

For a smaller navy, these issues are not deal breakers (they would not be shooting down drones and missiles in the Red Sea) and is probably seen as an acceptable tradeoff for the lower price.
 
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