Future of Russian Military

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Wall83

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waraich said:
Russian defence technology was on top in 80's in asia but after defeat in Afghanistan and disintegration of USSR they are now standing behind china .

Russia economy is booming due to high oil and gas prices.I hoped they will meet their targets in 2015 and regain their strength as world super power .

http://www.stratfor.com/analysis/russia_challenges_modernizing_military
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The question is what will happen now with the finazial crizes all over the world and oil prices continuing to drop. Couse high prices on gas and oil is an so important income source for the russians. The defence budget must suffer as well.
 
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Wall83 said:
The question is what will happen now with the finazial crizes all over the world and oil prices continuing to drop. Couse high prices on gas and oil is an so important income source for the russians. The defence budget must suffer as well.
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the former deputy finance mistster says Russia will go in a deep ressesion of 3% or 4% decrese admitaly this the most grim view and most only predict a large cut in groth
http://www.economist.com/world/europe/displayStory.cfm?story_id=12797734&source=features_box1
 
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Officially predicitions are 3% for next year, and the government is releasing reassuring statemetns with unpleasant regularity. However the RSVN have already declared they are reducing the number of sattelite launches for next year, however not the number of sattelites, by fitting more sattelites per carrier.
 
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I didnt know where to put this, but wanted to ask something regarding this article :

http://www.tempur.com.my/dcp.news.view.asp?newsID=442&categoryID=12

it is about the Russian International Defence Exhibition for Land Forces (IDELF). As the article says, the exhibitors were russian and Indian, an at such it the delegates attending the exhibition were from countries that have interest or clients of russian arms. At such, I was curious as to the mention of Canadian and US high level official delegation. What are they there for? snooping? :)
 
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nevidimka said:
I didnt know where to put this, but wanted to ask something regarding this article :

http://www.tempur.com.my/dcp.news.view.asp?newsID=442&categoryID=12

it is about the Russian International Defence Exhibition for Land Forces (IDELF). As the article says, the exhibitors were russian and Indian, an at such it the delegates attending the exhibition were from countries that have interest or clients of russian arms. At such, I was curious as to the mention of Canadian and US high level official delegation. What are they there for? snooping? :)
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The Cold War days are over, you will find Russians at Defence Exhibitions hosted by other countries, including the U.S.;)
 
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Acourding to this Russia will allocate $35.3 billion for arms production in 2009-11.

http://en.rian.ru/russia/20081222/119122284.html

In that period the military will receive 70 strategic missiles, 30 Iskander missiles and a number of carrier rockets and spacecraft. 300 tanks (T-90 I`m gessing), 38 aircraft (Su-34?), over 60 helicopters (Mi-28, Ka-50?), 2000 other vehicles, 14 ships and also 6 drones. (Maybe the drone idea came up after the Gerogia conflict). I have some doubt about this numbers, but it looks interesting.
 
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eckherl said:
The Cold War days are over, you will find Russians at Defence Exhibitions hosted by other countries, including the U.S.;)
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The Russians have been attending Australian Military defence exhibitions ever since 1998. (when they first tried to sell us the Su-27).
 
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Ah yes. I found a slightly longer Russian version of article with the same info. It says 48 combat airplanes. Given that the Yak-130 is a combat/trainer it's probably included in those airplanes, as is potentially the first Su-35BM, and the Su-34. It says almost 300 tanks. A single tank btln is 31, so I'm guessing we're talking about 9 btlns (279 tanks). That would mean 3 annually. The 2000 others refers to trucks and cars.

EDIT: Ok I found a more detailed article on newsru.com

http://newsru.com/russia/22dec2008/vpk.html

An extra 50 billion rubles has been directed straight into procurement programs as a way to help out the Russian defense sector over the next years. He also mentioned additional equipment purchases for the Interior Troops and FSB borderguard units.
 
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P.S. Keep in mind, "terrorist threat" is not something new. It was always there, but somehow earlier governments managed to fight it without such human rights restrictions. Right now West moving in very, very wrong direction.
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Look why are you guys tolerating this half-wit ideologue in this forum? Is it moderated anyway? That mindless America-bashing is tedious, and off-topic (whatever it is).
 
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A second ship of the Neustrashimiy class is due for sea trials soon in the iirc Baltic Fleet. It's probably one of the 14 mentioned in the article.

EDIT: And we just got an announcement that over 100 new combat and training heli's will be taken into the armed forces over the next 4 years.

http://arms-tass.su/?page=article&aid=64567&cid=25

So in the 3 years, we're getting 60, but to get 100 over 4 years, we would have to get another 40 in 2012?

EDIT2: This is starting to make less and less sense. This: http://arms-tass.su/?page=article&aid=64606&cid=25

claims that 2 squadrons of Mi-28N will be delivered over the next 3 years, primarily to the North-Caucus MD. But iirc helo squadrons are 24 airframes. So 48 of the new choppers will be Mi-28N? Out of 60?
 
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May be. The serial production of Ka-52 was just started and there is training heli Aspan so these 12 may be Ka-52 and Aspan
 
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Iirc, I don't have the article anymore, but 12 Ka-52's were scheduled for delivery by 2011. Though they don't say 60. They say over 60. I'm assuming that implies under 70. But then again, it could mean anything.
 
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Happy New Year!!!

So does anyone have some numbers how many aircrafts did join the Russian Armed forces during 2008? Did any Su-34 get thrue the production line? 58 is supose to have joined the airforce in the next 6 years ;)
 
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It doesn't look like any Su-34 were delivered. All we got was an article about how they completed testing.
 
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Yep. They earlier announced something along those lines. I'm guessing they're using it as a way to support defense companies in a time of crisis. What I really want to see is some procurement schedules or deployments of new equipment broken down by year. They used to make that kind of stuff public, but now they prefer to keep quiet.
 
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Russian equipment in western army service...

As the article says, the exhibitors were russian and Indian, an at such it the delegates attending the exhibition were from countries that have interest or clients of russian arms. At such, I was curious as to the mention of Canadian and US high level official delegation. What are they there for? snooping?
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What are you so surprised about western officers in a russian defence exibition?

There are russian defence equipment in several NATO armies, not only the ones belonging to the former Warsaw-pact, but also from the west part.

For an example, France use Krasnopol laser guided artillery grenades, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Krasnopol_(Weapon).
 
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