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F-35B/C - Naval Air Discussions (USN & USMC)

Discussion in 'Air Force & Aviation' started by OPSSG, Apr 13, 2012.

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  1. John Fedup

    John Fedup Well-Known Member

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    Defensenews has a summary of current F-35 issues. The link here describes a problem with the stealth coating when exceeding Mach 1.2, first noticed a while back and newer coatings have since been applied but the problem isn't fully addressed. The strange part is it seems to only be an issue with the B and C according to the article.

    Supersonic speeds could cause big problems for the F-35′s stealth coating
     
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    OPSSG Super Moderator Staff Member

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    Looks like the fixes for the F-35 programme is now sufficiently mature for Singapore to get started in its acquisition process. In the past, I always wondered why Singapore, as an early Security Cooperative Participant (SCP), took until March 2019 to place our first order (for 4 F-35, most likely the "A" version). There must have been some issues that were awaiting resolution before the 1st order.
     
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    ngatimozart Super Moderator Staff Member Verified Defense Pro

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    Most of the B & C aircraft operate in a maritime environment so there could be chemical interactions with the higher concentrations of salt within that environment and the heat that is created by friction of the passing air particles during supersonic flight.
     
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    John Fedup Well-Known Member

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    Yes, the salt could be an issue and this would explain why the "A" seems to be problem free wrt to this issue.
     
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    Likely waiting on these almost free, (80 million), F-35A's, LOL
     
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    ...and then there is Canada, a development partner, that still hasn’t released our supposed final RFP which will apparently result in an eventual order for something. How junior defines eventual and order will be interesting.
     
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    Maybe old news, but was looking at the video of the USS Wasp entering Sydney harbour a couple of weeks ago and couldn't help but notice half a dozen F35B's on the flight deck.
    Would I be correct that this is the first time the F35B variant has been seen in Australia.
    If so this is a significant event. The USN do not have many ships capable of operating the F35B at this stage.
    Certainly a privilege to be granted access to train with such a Ship / Aircraft system such as their LHD and suggest this says something of the relationship between our two countries.
    Will be interesting if the F35Bs stay on board for Talisman Sabre or are based on land.

    Maybe the US could benefit from the ADF attitude of not wasting space for embarked fixed wing aircraft in preference for additional vehicles / Helicopters.
    Those US Marines certainly have a lot to learn
    Maybe TS19 will be an eye opener for them!!!!

    Ah yes, that old conversation


    Regards S
     
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    An interesting article on the refueling of the F35 using older techniques
    F-35 operations benefit from 1950s equipment
    I was wondering would if this has been used in the R.A.A.F previously and if there were benefits for its usage here ,the article claims savings on time and money and there not any safety concerns ,perhaps members with experience could comment on its feasablity here.
     
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    ngatimozart Super Moderator Staff Member Verified Defense Pro

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    It's back to basics, allows for hot refueling, quick sortie regeneration and has been SOP for decades so shouldn't be an issue. Basic equipment and easily used and maintained if they can access or create spares.
     
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    John Fedup Well-Known Member

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    Two hours down to 15 minutes, what’s not to like about this kind of improvement? Old, paid for, and gets the job done works for me.
     
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    Maybe the USN has much bigger LHDs built with the intention of being able to do both, and with the crews, capital cost and ongoing sustainment to match.

    Or we can snipe from the sidelines like jealous schoolgirls or be willing to give up our makeup allowance to pay. THAT old conversation.

    oldsig
     
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    The jealous schoolgirl will continue to observe the trends of overseas navy's; and yes is mindful that one can only buy so much make-up with a given allowance.
    So will this "Old conversation" develop or dissipate" in the years ahead?
    Have your bet
    Some would say zero chance for the ADF getting this capability.
    My view is, that I'd give it a 95% chance within a decade we will have our own F35B's flying off the Canberra Class.
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    Time will tell oldsig, so remember this post!

    I value your opinion and input


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    Can we please leave this poor, deceased horse alone? The Moderators have stepped in before and shut down threads which devolved into whether or not the RAN would get or have fast jet capabilities from carriers or the LHD's. I would rather not tempt fate to see if it would happen again. If the RAN, ADF, or gov't made announcements regarding doing so, the situation would be different, but for right now there does not seem to be any movement towards such a capability.
     
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    ngatimozart Super Moderator Staff Member Verified Defense Pro

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    @Stampede Lay off this claptrap. You're derailing a non Australian thread with it and you and other recalcitrant posters have been warned about posting on this topic before. Consider this a formal warning.
     
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    OK
    I will be good.

    Regards S
     
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