China tests new land-attack cruise missile

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Expect Pakistan's tests to follow? :D


China tests new land-attack cruise missile

JANE'S MISSILES AND ROCKETS - OCTOBER 01, 2004

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China tests new land-attack cruise missile

China has test-fired a new land attack cruise missile (LACM) designated Dong Hai-10 (DH-10), or East China Sea-10, writes Wendell Minnick. A US defence source identified the DH-10 as a ground-launched second-generation LACM with a range of more than 1,500km. He said it is likely to be equipped with an integrated inertial navigation system/Global Positioning System, supplemented by a terrain contour mapping system and digital scene-matching terminal-homing system able to provide a circular error probable (CEP) of 10m.

China is also expected to field a second LACM within the next few years. The Ying Ji-63 (YJ-63), or Strike Eagle-63, is described by the source as a first-generation LACM with a range of 400-500km and the ability to carry a 500kg high explosive warhead at a speed of Mach 0.68. The missile is believed to be fitted with combined inertial and GPS mid-course guidance, plus some form of electro-optical terminal guidance. The latter is expected to provide a CEP of 10-15m, but it will probably be limited by weather. If it is a TV homing system rather than an autonomous scene-matching sensor, this will require a line-of-sight communications link with the launch aircraft or another platform.

The US source further pointed out that Harpy unmanned aerial vehicles obtained by China from Israel in 2001 are now operational.

These three sophisticated weapons pose new challenges to Taiwan, which has been engaged in extended debate over the ballistic missile threat from China. "Taiwan has not met the growing LACM threat head on," the source complained.

The YJ-63 is likely to be launched from the Xian H-6 'Badger' bomber, a copy of the Tupolev Tu-16. The naval version of this aircraft already has two wing-mounts for anti-ship missiles, but China is experimenting with additional pylons. One H-6 (No. 81217) has already been modified to incorporate four wing-mounted cruise missile pylons.

Defence sources stated that China has the capability to convert up to 25 H-6 bombers, so it could eventually be able to add 100 air-launched cruise missiles to the force of 200-300 short-range ballistic missiles expected to form the first wave of missiles launched during any Chinese attack on Taiwan. "Before too long, there will also be ship and sub-launched cruise missiles," stated one source.

Some within the US Department of Defence argue that Taiwan should procure elevated sensors, such as tethered aerostats, to counter the LACM threat. The aerostat sensor could cue Taiwan's HAWKs. Taiwan could also acquire Surface-Launched AMRAAM.

"Taiwan's Patriots, both PAC-2 GEM and [the planned] PAC-3 can handle cruise missiles, but as long as you have got the sensors and early detection, HAWKs do just fine," the source said. Patriot missiles are too expensive for use against cruise missile targets, he added, and are more suited to engaging ballistic missiles.

The US source made no mention of Taiwan's alternative strategy of developing a limited strike capability, a policy not favoured by Washington.

The US is currently developing the Joint Land-Attack Cruise Missile Defence Elevated Netted Sensor system, which is due to be deployed in 2008-09. Other aerostats that could fulfil Taiwan's needs are available on a shorter timescale. These include the aerostat surveillance systems released to Kuwait and Pakistan. The Kuwaiti system is based on a modified APG-63 Active Electronically Scanned Array radar, while the Pakistani system is equipped with the Lockheed Martin L-88(V)3 D-band surveillance radar.
 
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adsH

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pAkistan has alot planned this month they have the new radars and the new Automated SAM and defense network, cruise missiles, BM systems.
 
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adsH

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sorry webs ! i was replying to mysts comments.

" The aerostat sensor could cue Taiwan's HAWKs. Taiwan could also acquire Surface-Launched AMRAAM.
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are these surface launched AMRAAMS, that they have listed, anyone know how they work they must have to be hooked up to the aerostat radar systems.
 
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muslim282

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Well Taiwan really would be in serious problems if the chinese have developed such a precise and long range cruise missile.
This would render the taiwan navy ( apart from the subs ) as well as all the military targets on the mainland.
Even though the HAWK and PATRIOT systems may be able to intercept them, l don,t think this would be very effective due to the fact that if china was to unleash a first wave of missile strikes, it would effectivley be in their tens of hundreds.
l don,t think taiwans air defences would hold such a large onslaught.
 
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adsH

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China doesn't want the Island destroyed china wants it back intact with all the infrastructure!! its no use to china if the Infrastructure is destroyed.
 
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berry580

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As long as the PRC can reunite with the ROC, I'm pretty sure that'll be enough to satisfy the central government. As for the destroyed infrastructure, that'll help relieve the unemployment problem. ;)
 
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adsH

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oh please!! dude if they wanted the dam island so bad and they didn't want the infrastructure and the Investment that has gone into it they would of taken it already, but they want it intact, thats why there is so much planning going into it.
 
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berry580

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In case you don't know due to whatever reason, PRC didn't take back ROC in the past is mostly because they know they couldn't. They know they atleast couldn't achieve air-supriority in the past, which is extremely important in modern warfare. But its different now, China's military capability is starting to overtake ROC's, and is getting further and further.
 
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adsH

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Air superiority is one issue, one of many that are involved here, but China wants the Island intact not ripped apart. No doubt Taiwan would utilize its training and advance equipment to perform operations like strategic bombing of chinese assets, but China's threshold to tolerate Strategic bombing is high and would continue to get higher as time passes, the only thing Taiwan can do rite now to protect its self is either develop tactical nukes or establish a pact like alliance with a major nuke and military Power.

the second problem with China is that it lacks Logistics to transport its Massive land army on to the island, unless you'd like the Armed soldiers to swim to taiwan. massive Airdrops are not feasible since it requires an amazing air transport capability and expertise that are not available to PRC.


the only other option to china is to either accept Taiwan as indipendant or leave the matter how it is pending!!! or coerce its (taiwan) leadership to join up with mainland with a promise of autonomous control of the region.


the last option for china is to intimidate taiwan by threatening military action against them, taiwan under these circumstances (imminent massive invasion or destruction) should or might accept chinese control (since self preservation is key)
 
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muslim282

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Lets be a bit more realistic.
Both the taiwan economy and its forces do not pose as major hurdles to an all out invasion.
Taiwan may have a superior airforce in Quality, but this would in no doubt be over whelmed by the shear numbers of chinese fighters and bombers. lts navy would be outnumbered by at least 30 to 1 hence totally cutting the island off from all imports.
Of course the chinese have enough vehicles for troop movements through the straits. Their not exactly sailing the pacific.
Chinas only hurdle would be the USA. They would never the less try and regain Taiwan ( an important ally). For this reason Chinas new armed forces and equipment is more targeted at a possible show down with the USA.
Personally l believe that this is more likely to cause a nuclear war than the india and pakistan situation.
lt would be one hell of a stand off.
 
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adsH

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you see if china out numbers Taiwan by 30 to 1,it does not realize or people here do-not realize that the equipments that the Taiwanese Military posses are what many can call force multipliers so its not out numbered to a great extent!! I would say taiwan can give China some real resistance and then by delaying the invasion while the rest of the world slaps sanctions on the Chinese and then at the end china would have no exports or imports income would be zilch and they would have a barren island which would have no significant strategic value
 
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berry580

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If the Europeans and Americans slap sanctions on China, then we can expect a major global recession, probably worse than the 1997 one or the 1987 one.
 
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berry580

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Its an alternative, but you can't do this overnight, but China may try reunited Taiwan at anytime.

I don't know things in details, but the news that I watch (non-Chinese nor Indians news) gives me an impression that India has yet to be as successful as China. If investments has already been poured into China, and if China attacks and reunite Taiwan, you might as well go with China's way instead of wasting the money invested on the Chinese and then invest elsewhere.
 
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muslim282

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China attacks Taiwan. Overwhelms her and captures most of the island.
Europe slaps an embargo, but refuses to play a part militarily.
America flexes its muscles and decides to send in its los angeles class subs with its carrier fleets. America sinks a number of chinese fleet vessels, destroyers and subs, china launches a mass attack on the american fleet using russian missiles PLAAF planes. Missiles hit the american troops in Japan. America moves a large amount of soldiers from south korea to parts of taiwan. The North see,s its chance and using its force of over 1 million troops invades the south. Hell bush thinks iraq and afghanistan were hard to deal with.
China is put on a back foot due to americas might and military strength.
lndia decides now or never to get its land back from the chinese which was lost due to a border conflict. India is now seen as an ally of the usa. indian jets attack the chinese military from the air while pushing its troops forward with heavy artillery and tanks.
On the dawn of the next day the fizya pakistan smash frontline indian airbases while its military push forward to capture key positions. 25000
mujahadeen rush into kashmir, using a wave of suicide bombers to attack the large indian force in the occupied kashmir. The nationalist hindu parties cry for akhand baharat ( one india), bangladesh fears for being attacked and launches its wave of planes on the eastern border followed by artillery, tank and infantry attack.
isarel launches its own pre-emptive strikes on iran and syria, they retaliate but with little punch. Out of the blue jordan and egypt attack israel. Thousands of troops from the middle east and north african muslim countries overwhelm the israelis with shear numbers.
Just who will launch the first nuclear missile ?
The Balkans reignites sucking albania into the war. Turkey declares cyprus as a turkish state. Before long greece is being pushed back by a stronger turkish force.
Russia invades georgia for supplying and backing chechen rebels. Soon more than 10 states are fighting against russia for independence.
Indonesia recaptures east timor and in the process slaughters Australian peace keepers.
The Argentine leaders decide that to lift peoples spirits from their failed economy they will recapture the falklands, and this time have more than just exocets.
Well my friends it seems like we have world war lll
 
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