Novascotiaboy
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Searched back a number of years and didn’t find a Canadian Army thread so it’s time for one.
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Just surfing the net and noted that Canada has 20 GDF-005 twin 35 mm cannon stored for emergency use. I remember 4 AD from Moncton NB bringing one of these to our community 20 years ago and firing a burst. This was a demo thank you to the community for assistance to its members during their deployment during search operations for SWISSAIR 111 in 1998.
If these guns are out of service is there any anti aircraft capability besides coaxial or pintle HMG in service in Canadian inventory?
If these guns are out of service is there any anti aircraft capability besides coaxial or pintle HMG in service in Canadian inventory?
The guns on your LAVs should do the trick if the have the correct sights such as the UTAAS Tank and Anti-Aircraft System - Universal Sight and Fire-Control System which would do the job nicely. IIRC the LAV6 has gone to a 30 mm gun. Also if Mistral or FIM-92 Stinger was mounted in box launchers on the turret side you would have a good VSHORAD system that could be used on all the LAVs and if the Mistral / Stingers were mounted in conjunction with ATGM, such as the FGM-148 Javelin Anti Tank Guided Missile, a lethal vehicle.
John Fedup
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No, I believe Canada’s upgraded LAVs still have their 25mm guns. Other LAV 6 users have gone to 30mm. Perhaps Canada will be taking Saudi LAVs to prevent contract penalties by GD should junior cancel the contract with Saudi Arabia. Don’t really need them though except for bigger guns if they have them.
Maybe Justin can offer his beau Jacinda (NZ PM) a real sweat deal on the Saudi LAVs with the 105 mm guns fitted, plus say about 80 of the LAV6 fitted with 30 mm guns. Justin & Jacinda do appear to have the hots for each other, so no reason why we can't take advantage of it.
Any A4,s left in NZ storage? Maybe the Kiwis could swap some A4s for some LAVs lol!
Nope Draken bought all the ones that didn't go to museums.
John Fedup
The Bunker Group
Should the Saudi seal fall apart (apparently they haven’t made a payment for some of the LAVs already received), does NZ really need 80 new LAV6s?Maybe Justin can offer his beau Jacinda (NZ PM) a real sweat deal on the Saudi LAVs with the 105 mm guns fitted, plus say about 80 of the LAV6 fitted with 30 mm guns. Justin & Jacinda do appear to have the hots for each other, so no reason why we can't take advantage of it.
Well the current ones are due for either a MLU or replacement. Which path hasn't been decided yet, but a couple or three batteries of those LAV6s with the Cockerill 105 mm gun turrets on them wouldn't go astray.
John Fedup
The Bunker Group
Well we just need to shovel off the snow on the ones sitting at GD London, Ontario.
As far as I know we still have these: ADATS Short Range Air Defence System - Army Technology
FoxtrotRomeo999
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Decommissioned in 2011 - it would not be resurrected. DND selling equipment, mothballing base housing to meet cuts From the vendor Rheinmetall Canada - History
Thanks for those links FR999. I was not aware. However, I found another link that suggests this bit of shortsightedness is being addressed: Locked on: New radar gives artillery weapon location and air surveillance | Canadian Army Today
FoxtrotRomeo999
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Good to see. I actually liked the concept of ADATS and am amazed at what various countries mounted on an M113 (yes, Australia mounted the British Scorpion 76mm turrets).
Other second tier militaries seem to be investing in similar capabilities (not hijacking the Canadian thread just showing what others are doing).
The Australian Army has traditionally not had much in the way of Air Defence (RAAF has had primary responsibility) but we are are now acquiring a new short range air defence capability based on the Raytheon/Kongsberg National Advanced Surface to Air Missile System (NASAMS). Australia is buying two versions of NASAMS, jointly developed by Norway’s Kongsberg and Raytheon, one with a trailer-mounted six-cell launcher and one with four missiles fitted to a Hawkei armored 4x4 vehicle, both using Australian designed and built radar (proven naval radars from CEA)
These will network into other Services capabilities to provide theatre level protection.
John Fedup
The Bunker Group
Absolutely bloody disgusting.
Damn shame and dishonorable
Cool article on the LAV 6.0 (LAV 3 Upgrade): Mobile, lethal and better protected: Lessons from the LAV | Canadian Army Today
Since this article was written, Canada has ordered a further 360.
Since this article was written, Canada has ordered a further 360.
John Fedup
The Bunker Group
Meanwhile most other armies are up gunning their vehicles to 30-40 mm. Sticking with 25mm, cost containment no doubt.
Could be that would mean major redesign of the turret. Who knows?