Yes. Depending on a number of factors. But, the US ran a number of nuclear weapons proximity test on all classes of naval vessels that included capital ships and carriers over a number of years.Could a United States Aircraft carrier, i.e. The USS George H.W. Bush, withstand a close proximity nuclear explosion? Not of course on top of it, but would it survive the shockwave/be insulated from the radiation?
Go look up the Bikini Atoll tests from the late 40's, just about all the ships survived just fine.Could a United States Aircraft carrier, i.e. The USS George H.W. Bush, withstand a close proximity nuclear explosion? Not of course on top of it, but would it survive the shockwave/be insulated from the radiation?
What about them? They are tied down when not being moved and just about all military electronics are EMI shielded to prevent permanent damage.what about aircraft below deck - that would still be exposed to the shockwave?
i assume much of that would be a lost cause?. .. or is most of this still classified information from testing?
thats just plain incorrect. the citadels (and in fact all of the ship in modern vessels in the west) are sheilded from NBC. and unless they suffer from a massive kinetic strike, they can still fight.I do not know or they tested this senario in 2000 or later but i assume that even if the technologic advancement has increased of the past 20 years it would be doubt full that a capital ship and its crew survives a full EMPstrike and seconds later a Abomb blast.
And even if they survive than it would be a small group and the ship will probably survive it but it will be out of action and in need of some serious repair before it acctaully can be used again.
Yeah i know you and you are right, most modern navy vessels are protected against this.thats just plain incorrect. the citadels (and in fact all of the ship in modern vessels in the west) are sheilded from NBC. and unless they suffer from a massive kinetic strike, they can still fight.
again, platforms and specific components are shielded from EMP. EMP was a silver bullet 40 years ago.....
So it is you who wrote this text? May I ask on what occasion you did it? Just out of interest?O sorry here is the reference to the tekst i wrote: Link
No no its not my tekst....some other smart guy did wrote the tekst iam just using his info to make my point.So it is you who wrote this text? May I ask on what occasion you did it? Just out of interest?
One or two thoughts:
As many of the sources are rather old if you deal with the problem these day you'd have to take into account that there is a thing that has to be taken into accout and that's the emergence of glass fibre and wireless means of communication.
Secondly if a EMP passes the cage somehow there are powerful and very tricky means to deal with current peaks inside electronic circuits.
I do agree though that a EMP would probably have devastationg effects on civilian infrastructure.
ah, but I'm not stating that they're absolutely EMP protected - my prev was that critical warfighting nodes are shielded. You can't protect everything - you protect the critical gear and systems though.Yeah i know you and you are right, most modern navy vessels are protected against this.
Take a look at this tekst and you will see that EMP Hardening is capable to protect your systems but it is not working 100%.
So i must say you should be right as always ^^, but you are partially right.
And, if I may add this, it leaves out the fact that "hardening" not only means "shielding" but also the use of technologies that are not affected by EMP, e.g. glass fibre comm cables and others.The article is somewhat selective and liberal in stating its claims.
From a purely academic POW I'd say that a capital war ship with a robust steel hull (at least of German ships I know that they have to pass extensive blast trials, I guess others as well), NBC protection and vital nodes EMP shielded should be able to withstand a nuclear explosion some km away relatively unharmed.Beatmaster said:Anyway i mean to say a capital ship worth billions of dollars should have proper protection against all sorts of attacks, but its hard to believe that a capital ship suffers no damage from a indirect emp and nuke attack.
IMHO if complete city's can be destroyed by a nuke than a capital ship should be no problem even with a indirect hit, the blast wave would be so mutch and create a huge tidalwave that will sink any ships near it.
But if i may ask you lets say for example that a USN aircraft carrier comes close to ground zero lets say seconds before the big bang, what would be the situation for the vessel? i mean what impact would a emp blast have on the nimitz class carrier? would the nuke blast claim more damage and lives with or without the pre-EMP blast?ah, but I'm not stating that they're absolutely EMP protected - my prev was that critical warfighting nodes are shielded. You can't protect everything - you protect the critical gear and systems though.
The article is somewhat selective and liberal in stating its claims.