excellent uni adsH. i'm hoping to go there to do a degree to. anyway BAE companies came to the uni last november and done a mini exibition there. i went and checked it out. . they had engines aircraft and other aviation stuff there. and those models i'm talking about well they were cool man :eekhey i'm from the UNiversity of Birmingham, the Comp Sci department. the designs might of been from the Engineering department. Good UNi
was it the recruitment seminar in the Aston web building yeah, we had loads of bigg players ie companies at that Exhibition. Did BAE bring demonstration stuff, i was being too lazy that day i walk past the Hall but couldn't be bothered to go in you had to dress up Formally.P.A.F said:excellent uni adsH. i'm hoping to go there to do a degree to. anyway BAE companies came to the uni last november and done a mini exibition there. i went and checked it out. . they had engines aircraft and other aviation stuff there. and those models i'm talking about well they were cool man :eekhey i'm from the UNiversity of Birmingham, the Comp Sci department. the designs might of been from the Engineering department. Good UNi
anyway back to topic of the euro-fighter
adsH said:LOL : first they first claim it (su30mki) is better then EF2000 then when they can't prove it they try and clinch the equal position. :LOL, SU 30 MKI is not even close to the quality,reliability and the technological sophisticated ness the EF2000 has to offer, its obvious, we have a higher standard of Technology R&D, our universities are the onees doing the cutting edge research producing graduates with the knowledge and the skills that other countries could only dream of producing. Beat that !!! lol!! oh rite and we have a 60 year lead in aviation technology we invented the damn Radar.Roger Smith said:EF-2000 is a good fighter AC compatible to Su-30MKI.
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Can you plz tell me the specs of the radar, the eurofighter uses?
Can you tell me on what facts you base such a statement?EF-2000 is a good fighter AC compatible to Su-30MKI
You have your views, good luck to them!!!!!!!!!!
EF uses the CAPTOR-Radar. Its a mechanical pulse-Doppler-Radar. Because its mechanical some people claim its an inferior radar. While new radars are not mechanical moved anymore its capabilities are still up-to-date. It has an official range of about 185 km for figher sized AC and around 370 km for larger ones like commercial AC. It can detect & track up to 20 targets simultaniously and uses a special processing channel (next to detection and tracking) for ECM.Can you plz tell me the specs of the radar, the eurofighter uses?
Of course the EF has afterburners. They are necessary to achieve the maximum speed of mach 2. However the EF is able to supercruise with mach 1.3 (officially rated at 1.2). This may change with future engine upgrades (possible for batch 3).somebody please give some specs on power plant,range and speed of eurofighter typhoon.heard that super cruise at 1.3 mach was acheived,does it mean that the typhoon wouldnt have afterburners???finally,how much is the unit cost(expected).
Come on adsh, dont bash the russians that much!SU 30 MKI is not even close to the quality,reliability and the technological sophisticated ness the EF2000 has to offer, its obvious, we have a higher standard of Technology R&D, our universities are the onees doing the cutting edge research producing graduates with the knowledge and the skills that other countries could only dream of producing. Beat that !!! lol!! oh rite and we have a 60 year lead in aviation technology we invented the damn Radar.
how much advantage does russian missiles have and why?is it about the r-77(amramskii) you are talking about?Currently the russians have only one advantage over western counterparts in air-to-air-warfare and thats their missiles (I'm talking about existing, not upcoming ones).
Thanks Turin. Regarding the radar, you said it can track 20 targets simultaneaously, how many can it engage at the same time??turin said:Can you tell me on what facts you base such a statement?EF-2000 is a good fighter AC compatible to Su-30MKI
You have your views, good luck to them!!!!!!!!!!
EF uses the CAPTOR-Radar. Its a mechanical pulse-Doppler-Radar. Because its mechanical some people claim its an inferior radar. While new radars are not mechanical moved anymore its capabilities are still up-to-date. It has an official range of about 185 km for figher sized AC and around 370 km for larger ones like commercial AC. It can detect & track up to 20 targets simultaniously and uses a special processing channel (next to detection and tracking) for ECM.Can you plz tell me the specs of the radar, the eurofighter uses?
The CAPTOR is integral part of the EF sensor fusion system.
Of course the EF has afterburners. They are necessary to achieve the maximum speed of mach 2. However the EF is able to supercruise with mach 1.3 (officially rated at 1.2). This may change with future engine upgrades (possible for batch 3).somebody please give some specs on power plant,range and speed of eurofighter typhoon.heard that super cruise at 1.3 mach was acheived,does it mean that the typhoon wouldnt have afterburners???finally,how much is the unit cost(expected).
Cost per unit is a very problematic issue since it depends on what packages are included (service, training etc). I'd guess the pure fly-away-prize is around 60 million US-$.
Come on adsh, dont bash the russians that much!SU 30 MKI is not even close to the quality,reliability and the technological sophisticated ness the EF2000 has to offer, its obvious, we have a higher standard of Technology R&D, our universities are the onees doing the cutting edge research producing graduates with the knowledge and the skills that other countries could only dream of producing. Beat that !!! lol!! oh rite and we have a 60 year lead in aviation technology we invented the damn Radar.
I'd say their R&D is about as good as the western one. However while we have the money (at least to a certain degree) to realize our R&D, the russians in most cases have not! Yeah, the EF is superior to the Su-30, yet that doesnt mean the russians are not able from a scientific point of view to come up with something better. They surely are but with a lack of funding nothing will happen nevertheless.
Currently the russians have only one advantage over western counterparts in air-to-air-warfare and thats their missiles (I'm talking about existing, not upcoming ones).
Officially six targets can be engaged at the same time, however inofficially it is said that engaging of at least eight targets is possible.Thanks Turin. Regarding the radar, you said it can track 20 targets simultaneaously, how many can it engage at the same time??
Then the radar of the MKI is better than the EF 2000.turin said:Officially six targets can be engaged at the same time, however inofficially it is said that engaging of at least eight targets is possible.Thanks Turin. Regarding the radar, you said it can track 20 targets simultaneaously, how many can it engage at the same time??
@adsH: I completely agree with you. Problem is that the Soviet Union does no longer exist, so large scale funding has ceased. If Russia would still have its old style budget, they would be able to field some impressive weaponry, however (fortunately) thats an academic issue now.
What are the exact features of the MKI-radar?Then the radar of the MKI is better than the EF 2000.
Eurofigher initally was developed as air-superiority-fighter, hwever later the concpet was changed due to transnational demands. So the EF now is a multirole AC with strong emphasize on air superiority. There is a difference between the three batches. Batch 1 and 2 are meant for the AS-role while batch 3 is meant for the strike role.is typhoon a multi-role aircraft or an airsuperiority fighter.how much eurofighters are going to be in service(approximately).also give the possible number of jsf aircraft expected to be feilded by the european nations.
And my point is that the EF (as well as the F-22) is a flying real AC while the only thing I've seen of the PAKFA are two different looking sketches. No further data was released, there obviously exists no flying prototype (other than the JSF), no technical data, no nothing. The AC is ment to enter service around 2010, so is the JSF. However the one AC gives a quite good impression of what it is able to do, the other (PAKFA) does not. So I am going with a british saying: "They should put up or shut up!".My main point that I am argueeing is that the Russians have a follow on project to counter the JSF called the Pak-fa (some consider it to be financed by the Indians and may be availible to the Chinese too) which wud be availible in fully tested pre-production models by 2009 which wub be a true 5th gen jet. How do we compare the EF-2000 to that?