best special forces

[Aussie Digger]

Yeah, CT kit is Always VERY much customised. Some Queensland Police SERT operators don't use a single piece of issued equipment, other than their weapons. Even these are individually customised to the actual operator and are often difficult for other operators to use effectively.

I also wondered why the Aussie is wearing cams. He must be a Number 2 for a Sniper Team, but he appears to be carrying an MP5A3 (an accurate weapon, but hardly fit for "sniping") like the others, strange...

 

[Raven_Wing278]

is the chinese Spec Ops forces comparable withe the rest in the world?

 

[gf0012-aust]

is the chinese Spec Ops forces comparable withe the rest in the world?

The Chinese Specops IIRC now come under the aegis of the "Dadu Units". They train hard, are given the best gear etc, but AFAIK there are no external examples of them having had to operate outside of mainland China- Any ops they have done would be internal.

Getting quality info out of China is very difficult. I have no doubt that they are capable in training and task, but without actually seeing them at play, or seeing a post op assessment, no one will have any idea of their real capabilities.

 

[Pathfinder-X]

is the chinese Spec Ops forces comparable withe the rest in the world?

A quote from Sinodefence.com

Chinese SOFs, like their counterparts around the world, emphasize superior physical fitness and small-arms proficiency in their soldiers. All PLA's SOF members are trained in martial arts and parachuting. Elements of each unit are likely to have specialised training in one or more of the following areas: UAVs, amphibious operations, demolitions, communications, computers, or foreign languages.

But few year back, in the 1980's, Chinese SOF's training focused too much on hand to hand combat training. It was not until early 1990's they finally put strong emphysis on weaopn training. Several operation has already been carried out in China and so far I heard they were quite successful.

 

[Raven_Wing278]

cheers dudes...btw any 1 read mathew reilly books...eg scarecrow,area 7.and ice station...they all action packed about the SOFs(mainly US) and there key rolls and stuff...and the weapons they use..might wanna check it out..its da bomb :!:

 

[Siga]

Do the Malaysian special forces have been tested in combat? What are their real experiences?

 

[Jonny]

Definately the British SAS, they were formed during World War 2 and have proved themselves countless times. One of their best successes was in Operation Barras, Sierra Leone, 10th September 2000. See here: http://www.specialoperations.com/Counterterrorism/Barras.htm for more

 

[Aussie Digger]

The topic was "best special forces" not the most highly publicised... Only joking, though I'd argue that SASR is more capable these days, 22nd SAS is definitely at the top of the tree.

 

[Gremlin29]

SAS has set the standard all others are measured by, and are the best overall IMHO. There are others that are better at certain tasks, but overall the SAS par exellence.

 

[Pathfinder-X]

I disagree that SAS is the best amoung the SOF community. Yes most western SF unit is modelled after it but since then many of them have gone on to operations and refined their tactics. Just because a unit was modelled after does not mean that it will always be the best. I'd also argue that SASR is on par with, if not better, to SAS.

 

[pezfez]

the only way to judge is to find out how much money is spent on each soldier in the sfs around the world, so you're ass/uming that the money spent on the soldier has higher results than the ones that don't. ne one have the budgets/numbers of sfs to figure this out?

 

[Aussie Digger]

If money spent per soldier was the only indicator of excellence than the USA would outshine everyone else by a Country mile. Unfortunately Specwarrie wise, the USA has had many, many public failures. I'm not saying they aren't competent, however if there is only "one" way of measuring the capability of a particular unit then my choice would be for operational performance. SASR has been flawless (operationally) since it's creation...

 

[moughoun]

is the chinese Spec Ops forces comparable withe the rest in the world?

The Chinese Specops IIRC now come under the aegis of the "Dadu Units". They train hard, are given the best gear etc, but AFAIK there are no external examples of them having had to operate outside of mainland China- Any ops they have done would be internal.

Getting quality info out of China is very difficult. I have no doubt that they are capable in training and task, but without actually seeing them at play, or seeing a post op assessment, no one will have any idea of their real capabilities.

there were several report's out of Afghanistan, of Chinese sf, most probably the 12th swd, crossing the border,including observing coalition forces in action

 

[moughoun]

If money spent per soldier was the only indicator of excellence than the USA would outshine everyone else by a Country mile. Unfortunately Specwarrie wise, the USA has had many, many public failures. I'm not saying they aren't competent, however if there is only "one" way of measuring the capability of a particular unit then my choice would be for operational performance. SASR has been flawless (operationally) since it's creation...

Ya, I never heard a bad word against the SASRor the NZSAS from our lad's in ET :smokingc:

 

[Raven_Wing278]

has chinese SF ever operated out side of china?

 

[Aegis]

I think Israel commando is the most capable! Plus experience.

 

[moughoun]

has chinese SF ever operated out side of china?

the 12th SWD was "reportedly" active in Afghanistan, but nothing was confirmed

 

[ashoaib]

From where you heard that news

 

[Pathfinder-X]

Chinese SOF (They were called scouts back then) was very much active in Vietnam, mainly involving in recon op, sabotages. Many of the SF unit now are former scout unit involved in Vietnam.

 

[VICTORA1]

Hello guys,
The israeli commando maybe the best or the SAS can do better, but I bet you that pakistan and india would have better trained special forces and combat ready soldiers than anybody else in the world at this time only if the altitude of the skirmish was changed to plus 7500ft. What do you say to that.

What I am trying to say is that no one troop is good for every scenario. Different situations would bring about different results, but definitely the more professional and dedicated teams would do better overall.