The Russian-Ukrainian War Thread

[seaspear]

Largely ammunition otherwise you would have to consider North Korea had its own vast stores of such that were more than the N.A.T.O stocks

North Korea supplies 40% of Russia’s weapons – Ukraine’s Defence Intelligence chief

North Korea currently supplies up to 40% of Russia’s ammunition for the war in Ukraine, as the partnership between Pyongyang and Moscow deepens.

www.pravda.com.ua

this graph shows a large increase in imports from China to North Korea

North Korea-China trade jumps to $230M in May, bringing yearly total to over $1B | NK News

North Korea’s trade with China jumped 26.8% year-on-year in May to $230 million, new customs data shows, continuing a trend of strong growth in 2025 and holding steady amid speculation surrounding a strained relationship. The total trade volume last month marked a 3.5% increase from $222.1...

www.nknews.org

 

[Redshift]

"... acceptable to RU". It is not a good idea to read from a high horse.

Comprehension isn't your strong point is it, have you heard of sarcasm at all?

 

[rsemmes]

Comprehension isn't your strong point is it, have you heard of sarcasm at all?

From such a high horse... Sarcasm, I fear, doesn't trickle down.

 

[rsemmes]

Now we have Kamianske (but I guess all that area has plenty of minefields) and Milove. A long way to Prikolotne-Velikii Burluk, but Ukraine will have to send more troops there.
Could Russia be thinking about opening more fronts instead of one offensive?

 

[Redshift]

From such a high horse... Sarcasm, I fear, doesn't trickle down.

Well I guess that you should know .

 

[PachkaSigaret]

Largely ammunition otherwise you would have to consider North Korea had its own vast stores of such that were more than the N.A.T.O stocks

North Korea supplies 40% of Russia’s weapons – Ukraine’s Defence Intelligence chief

North Korea currently supplies up to 40% of Russia’s ammunition for the war in Ukraine, as the partnership between Pyongyang and Moscow deepens.

www.pravda.com.ua

this graph shows a large increase in imports from China to North Korea

North Korea-China trade jumps to $230M in May, bringing yearly total to over $1B | NK News

North Korea’s trade with China jumped 26.8% year-on-year in May to $230 million, new customs data shows, continuing a trend of strong growth in 2025 and holding steady amid speculation surrounding a strained relationship. The total trade volume last month marked a 3.5% increase from $222.1...

www.nknews.org

I'm not sure if 40% is a correct percentage. Either way, it's wise for Russia to utilize North Korean factories, much in the same way Ukraine utilizes Western factories; the difference being is the cost to produce is substantially cheaper for the Russians. I can't imagine North Korean labor being expensive or having to contend with complaints of poor working conditions. What I'm curious about is knowing if they've helped the Koreans open up new production lines and helped them get new machine tooling, ect. Plus, I'm curious if they've started drone manufacturing lines besides munitions. Either way, it's a win/win for both. You must account for how expensive and all the bureaucracy that goes on with Western production and sourcing.

 

[seaspear]

A bit more

The Economist: China could have handed over lethal weapons, including ammunition, to Russia

China could have transferred lethal weapons, including artillery shells and military drones, to the Russian army

babel.ua

Zelensky: China Supplying Artillery to Russia — What’s Being Sent? - Militarnyi

Ukraine has received confirmation of China's arms supplies to the Russian Federation, including gunpowder and artillery ammunition

militarnyi.com

 

[Redshift]

I'm not sure if 40% is a correct percentage. Either way, it's wise for Russia to utilize North Korean factories, much in the same way Ukraine utilizes Western factories; the difference being is the cost to produce is substantially cheaper for the Russians. I can't imagine North Korean labor being expensive or having to contend with complaints of poor working conditions. What I'm curious about is knowing if they've helped the Koreans open up new production lines and helped them get new machine tooling, ect. Plus, I'm curious if they've started drone manufacturing lines besides munitions. Either way, it's a win/win for both. You must account for how expensive and all the bureaucracy that goes on with Western production and sourcing.

'Not worrying about "Complaints about poor conditions"' now that is a a serious understatement!!!

It's probably not a huge win for the North Korean people, just the regime, after all near slave labour production lines can be very cheap indeed.

 

[rsemmes]

"South Korea’s Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA) reports that since October 2024, North Korea has shipped about 28,000 containers filled with conventional weapons and ammunition to Russia. Based on standard load calculations, these shipments amount to more than 12 million rounds of 152 mm artillery shells, a key caliber for Russian howitzers and gun-howitzers."

So, Ukraine knows that Russia has loaded 42,000 containers with ammo and weapons since October 2024.

North Korea Ships 28,000 Containers of Weapons to Russia, Says South Korea’s Intelligence

North corean Type 75 multiple rocket launcher concealed in woodland cover. (Source: First Presidential Brigade of the National Guard “Burevi…

united24media.com

I wonder if we should take figures provided by Ukraine with more than a pinch of salt.

 

[rsemmes]

can be very cheap indeed.

Do you know if they have free medical coverage?

 

[seaspear]

Not just the Ukrainians making claims about North Koreas arms exports to Russia

Increased demand for illicit weapons trade expands North Korea-Russia maritime trade

Russia and North Korea have ramped up the flow of maritime trade amid increased demand for bulk cargos of munitions

www.lloydslist.com

U.S. Says North Korea Shipped Arms to Russia | Arms Control Association

www.armscontrol.org

 

[vikingatespam]

Are you talking about Russia invading Ukraine?

No, the issue is whether or not NATO nations could mount a credible invasion of Russia.

 

[vikingatespam]

Whatever scenario, you just call it irrational or fantasy. There is no point. (Invading Grenada was an irrational paranoid fantasy?)

Give me a scenario that isnt irrational fantasy then. Address the 5 points I brought up. No one has been able to do that yet.

Genada ? Why would that be a fantasy ?

 

[rsemmes]

No, the issue is whether or not NATO nations could mount a credible invasion of Russia.

Credible for the invaders or for the invaded?

You cannot limit the "issue" to your convenience. Was the invasion of Ukraine credible? No, not in a Afghanistan/Iraq style, invading and occupying the whole country. The mobilization of all of the Russian Armed Forces for the conquer of Ukraine? Not credible.
It has already pointed out. A SMO, is that credible? It has to be credible only to the (to be) invaded.

Grenada is just an example. A threat to the existence of USA? To its independence? A credible threat? A future threat? Anyway, should US consider that or Kenya?

 

[rsemmes]

Surprisingly, I wasn't able to read anything about the "audacious killing" of an Ukrainian SBU coronel.

 

[Redshift]

Do you know if they have free medical coverage?

Please explain to me how that matters with regards to my post?

 

[Redshift]

Credible for the invaders or for the invaded?

You cannot limit the "issue" to your convenience. Was the invasion of Ukraine credible? No, not in a Afghanistan/Iraq style, invading and occupying the whole country. The mobilization of all of the Russian Armed Forces for the conquer of Ukraine? Not credible.
It has already pointed out. A SMO, is that credible? It has to be credible only to the (to be) invaded.

Grenada is just an example. A threat to the existence of USA? To its independence? A credible threat? A future threat? Anyway, should US consider that or Kenya?

Whataboutism, because USA invasion of Grenada was unjustified has no bearing on Russia's invasion of Ukraine

 

[rsemmes]

Please explain to me how that matters with regards to my post?

You are so well informed about working conditions in NK... I was just curious.

 

[crest]

I noticed the new trump weapons to NATO for Ukraine deal doesn't have any limitations on weapon type. I believe it was also stated it won't need to go thru the house or the Senate. As it's a pay later type thing or seams to be detailes are vague (intentionally I suppose)

To the greater point of impact it's hard to see this turning into a weapons rush GREATER then that seen in the past so it's hard to see how the impact would contain let alone reverse Russian momentum. Even moreso when you factor in the greater manpower disparity that is now in effect. I would also note what at least to me seems to be a much greater focuse if not ability of Russia to hit supply lines and depots in the far west of ukraine, I suspect it will be a difficult problem to re-establish a layered air defence in volume well we continue to see the daily drone and missile attack by Russia in the numbers we have been seeing recently.

 

[Feanor]

Largely ammunition otherwise you would have to consider North Korea had its own vast stores of such that were more than the N.A.T.O stocks

North Korea supplies 40% of Russia’s weapons – Ukraine’s Defence Intelligence chief

North Korea currently supplies up to 40% of Russia’s ammunition for the war in Ukraine, as the partnership between Pyongyang and Moscow deepens.

www.pravda.com.ua

this graph shows a large increase in imports from China to North Korea

North Korea-China trade jumps to $230M in May, bringing yearly total to over $1B | NK News

North Korea’s trade with China jumped 26.8% year-on-year in May to $230 million, new customs data shows, continuing a trend of strong growth in 2025 and holding steady amid speculation surrounding a strained relationship. The total trade volume last month marked a 3.5% increase from $222.1...

www.nknews.org

Has there been any suggestion that P.L.A.N munitions have been siphoned through North Korea into Russia?

Sorry, maybe I misunderstand, but I'm curious. Why do you think PLA Navy munitions specifically? Was there some items that showed up in Ukraine that I missed?