A warm welcome to you.
Assuming the above is true, how long would it take for Russia to get the Moskva up and running again?
Pending release of images, I don’t think Moskva will ever sail again — a total constructive loss is a likely outcome. It should have been retired ages ago, but the Russian Navy has such a severe shortage of major surface combatants that it was kept in service (see: Серьезная модернизация крейсера «Москва» пока не планируется | Еженедельник «Военно-промышленный курьер»).
The Ukrainians can sell them... the Ukraina, which is rusting at Mykolaiv. That would be a sick burn.
From what I've seen there's talk (assuming the Russians aren't lying through their teeth) that the crew were evacuated, which either implies the fire did extensive damage or there was enough flooding (either via damage directly or via water used for fire fighting) to render the ship's reserves of stability and buoyancy highly dubious, raising the risk of the ship rapidly sinking while under tow.
It is similar to a launch on bearing or a bearing only launch. This means the missile is fired into the general vicinity and the active seeker turns on near the terminal phase. In this case, the range and bearing can be supplied by the commercial radar.
It's likely propaganda. There is no recognisable damage on the ship depicted in the photo.
I have put in this thread before that some probable Neptune battery be operational. I put there base on information that Ukranian put when they are doing marketing of Neptune land based SSM system to Indonesia two years ago.
Yes, a pity.
Glad to see a new member. I don’t have any new info on Mariupol or Kharkiv at this time; will be glad to learn more from you, when you share.
Given the ship was first commissioned 40 years ago it probably should have been turned into a dive wreck years ago.
en.wikipedia.org
This war is already expensive enough for Russia without all those embargoes and boycots. So personally I think that it is unlikely that new heavy destroyer/cruiser programs like the Project 23560 Lider will start construction in the next 10 years.Moskva and her sisters and all other large Russian Destroyers supposedly being maintain until Lider program come to fruition.
Is Russia's Lider-class Destroyer Coming Back from the Dead?
The upcoming warship will not only be twice as large as the country’s Soviet-era destroyers, but substantially bigger than even the three Slava-class guided-missile cruisers currently serving in the Russian Navy.nationalinterest.org
I know there's enough interest for Moskva to be really sunk by Ukranian Neptune SSM. So let's see which is telling the truth. Again the truth will always come out.
And if Moskva still affloat and Russian manage to tow her back to Sevastopol, I agree with OPSSG that chances to rebuild her is going to be very slim. Unless Russian manage to capture Nikolayev and the yards in there on relatively good conditions. That's too much "if".
Lets see how the truth will come out on Moskva real condition.
I have put in this thread before that some probable Neptune battery be operational. I put there base on information that Ukranian put when they are doing marketing of Neptune land based SSM system to Indonesia two years ago.
It is probable they are keeping them for potential defense of Odessa. Despite this, Russian Black Sea fleet still have enough resources for Amphibious operation.
Why? It was still operational and had a role to play; age withstanding. There are ships operated by Tier One navies which are nearly as old; the USN's Ticonderogas come to mind.
As long as the ship isn't operational for the next years the implications for this war are still the same. Meaning a lack of air defense for the rest of the fleet and also the ground forces in the area, or is this speculation as well? As far as I know even the Ukrainians did not claim that the ship sunk.
That would mean only 8 barrels could fire those Excaliburs IF those are howitzers capable of that. And of course if Ukraine has the suitable means to guide them.
The Lider program always seemed to be a smokescreen, not an actual program.
3. Even with supply disruptions the Russians are attacking the residential district in the north-east of Kharkiv but they are not able to hold ground. A single Russian artillery battalion of 18 guns, firing a measly 11 rounds per gun consumes 198 rounds (per fire mission). In a 72 hour period, an artillery battalion can use up to 1,980 rounds. Russia is consuming munitions at a rate unseen in recent memory — a delay battle that extends a fight by a mere 3 days, means it creates the need for Russia to ship this amount of artillery ammo to support just 3 of their BTGs advancing on Kharkiv.
Mariupol had a mainly Russian population & was even closer, but so far it's taken over six weeks & there's still fighting. Kharkiv is over three times the size & harder to isolate.