No modern navy vessel can absorb a hit. It,s kill or get killed these days. The CG,s are just Spruance Destroyers with more missiles and phased radar. They share the same hulls and guns etc. The modern day Cruiser is more stand alone than Destroyers but that's about it. Also,it sounds cheaper to say you have Destroyers than Cruisers when it comes time to get funding to build them."I think the CG's will eventually be scrapped and the fleet will be all AB Destroyers. DDG's are wider making them more seaworthy in icey waters like the North Pole where there is a lot of interest . Canada is building Armed Ice Breaker ships just for that reason.
What is the differens between a Cruiser and a Destroyer?
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F-15 Eagle
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Thats what the Navy is planing on doing to. Technically the new Flight III DDG-51s will be cruisers and will be larger and could carry a new set of weapons than today's DDG's along with enhanced ballistic missile defense.
GuyfromBrisbane
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It is interesting that the RAN's future Hobart Class Destroyers will be around 7000t displacement but it is also stated that the future ASW Frigates will be around 7000t displacement. If they both have approximately the same displacement wouldn't that make them either both destroyers or both frigates?
Well to add further confusion to the discussion, the UK Type 42 destroyers are significantly smaller than the Type 22 frigates. Their classification was based on their role not their size.
Ananda
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Can't it be said that all catagorisations of Warships now has been scaled down at least one notch ?
If we look the terms of Frigates, it used to mean an escort with spesialised specific duties. Now those that make in to that catagory actually called 'corvetes'. The duties that used to be handle by 'corvetes'/'sloops' now being handle by FPB's. I like what the Russian called their Heavy Cruisers..in which actually means Battle Cruisers.
If we look the terms of Frigates, it used to mean an escort with spesialised specific duties. Now those that make in to that catagory actually called 'corvetes'. The duties that used to be handle by 'corvetes'/'sloops' now being handle by FPB's. I like what the Russian called their Heavy Cruisers..in which actually means Battle Cruisers.
StevoJH
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They arent armoured and they don't have 8" or battleship sized guns, so I don't think they would really match the normal definition of either a heavy cruiser or battle cruiser.
Maybe they could be classified as "Large Light Cruisers"? :dance
If you're talking about the Kirovs, I thought the Russians referred to them as heavy missile cruisers - and at over 20,000 tons, I think the "heavy" part is probably justified...
Todjaeger
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With respect to the differences between different types of ships, i.e. cruisers, destroyers, frigates and corvettes, there are a few different factors which come together to showcase the differences.
Probably one of the easiest to define in terms of differences would be corvettes. They are typically small (100m>length) ocean-going combatants, which can be armed with some combination of cannons, SAM and AShM and torpedoes. In many respects, the weapons loadout of a corvette can be similar to that of a larger vessel like a frigate. Where it is typically different is that either there are less of a weapon (few SAM's and AShM) and/or the weapons are smaller, like a 76mm/62-cal main gun in place of a 5" or 127mm/54 or 62-cal main gun. Corvettes typically also have shorter endurance at sea due to size as well.
Next up (in size) would typically be frigates, which are generally somewhere between 100-150 m in lenth, although many GP frigates are around 120m in length. These are typically general service escorts, able to provide a level of ASW, ASuW and AAD and self-defence.
Destroyers are next up, and while they are often a little larger than frigates, there are some frigates which are larger then some destroyers. These vessels tend to have some specific roles in mind, like land-attack or area air defence, and their weapons fitout tends to lean towards whatever role the destroyers have. Like being VLS cell heavy for SAM's and LACM's.
Lastly come the cruisers. Now cruisers are often large combatants, usually larger than escorting destroyers, but not in all cases. The Ticonderoga-class CG, as well as the Spruance- and Kidd-class DDG's were all based upon the same hull. What sets a cruiser apart is the command role which a cruiser usually fufills.
Hope this helps.
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Probably one of the easiest to define in terms of differences would be corvettes. They are typically small (100m>length) ocean-going combatants, which can be armed with some combination of cannons, SAM and AShM and torpedoes. In many respects, the weapons loadout of a corvette can be similar to that of a larger vessel like a frigate. Where it is typically different is that either there are less of a weapon (few SAM's and AShM) and/or the weapons are smaller, like a 76mm/62-cal main gun in place of a 5" or 127mm/54 or 62-cal main gun. Corvettes typically also have shorter endurance at sea due to size as well.
Next up (in size) would typically be frigates, which are generally somewhere between 100-150 m in lenth, although many GP frigates are around 120m in length. These are typically general service escorts, able to provide a level of ASW, ASuW and AAD and self-defence.
Destroyers are next up, and while they are often a little larger than frigates, there are some frigates which are larger then some destroyers. These vessels tend to have some specific roles in mind, like land-attack or area air defence, and their weapons fitout tends to lean towards whatever role the destroyers have. Like being VLS cell heavy for SAM's and LACM's.
Lastly come the cruisers. Now cruisers are often large combatants, usually larger than escorting destroyers, but not in all cases. The Ticonderoga-class CG, as well as the Spruance- and Kidd-class DDG's were all based upon the same hull. What sets a cruiser apart is the command role which a cruiser usually fufills.
Hope this helps.
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We've had that before iirc.
Corvettes = 2D
Frigates = 3D, one specialization
Destroyers = 3D, two specializations
Cruisers = 3D, full-spectrum
Covers most of what is out there.
What sets a cruiser apart is the command role which a cruiser usually fufills.
Nah, there are destroyers and frigates with command task functionality too.
Corvettes = 2D
Frigates = 3D, one specialization
Destroyers = 3D, two specializations
Cruisers = 3D, full-spectrum
Covers most of what is out there.
What sets a cruiser apart is the command role which a cruiser usually fufills.
Nah, there are destroyers and frigates with command task functionality too.
F-15 Eagle
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The DDG-51 has a 9200 tons displacement and at 510 ft in length which is cruiser size and has more firepower than most previous cruiser classes. In my mind the DDG-51 is a cruiser not a destroyer.
I would expect the new Flight III DDG-51 to be superior to the Ticonderoga class cruiser.
The new DDG-1000 is 600 ft in length and weights in at 14,500 tons larger than a Tico by far.
Whats the difference between a CG-47 and a DDG-51 Flight IIA/III? Not much expect for the command facilities.
I would expect the new Flight III DDG-51 to be superior to the Ticonderoga class cruiser.
The new DDG-1000 is 600 ft in length and weights in at 14,500 tons larger than a Tico by far.
Whats the difference between a CG-47 and a DDG-51 Flight IIA/III? Not much expect for the command facilities.