US navy Future Projects

[ajay_ijn]

The first and the foremost CVNX
Navy's next generation Aircraft carriers.
http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/ship/cvx.htm
CVNX-1 features are new electrical generation distributive systems to reduce maintainence,better utilization of generated electric power and flexibility of electrical sub systems.
CVNX-2 features new electromagnetic aircraft launching system which reduces the Manpower and imrpove the aircraft life and also free catapults which uses steam.It will also have low operating costs and reduced Man power.
of course they will also have stealth features.

DDX class multimission destroyer
http://www.naval-technology.com/projects/dd21/
Multimission surface combatant to replace perry class frigates and Spurance class destroyers.
It also will have stealth features.
Its main mission is Land attack but also has ASW,AAW and Anti-Ship capabilities
Its also features PVLS(peripheral vetical launching system),AGS(advanced gun system of range 100 miles)
It has a crew of 95 compared to 330 spurance and 200 on perry frigates.
Why is Advanced gun system of 100miles needed?For land attack or Anti-ship?

Littoral Combat Ship (LCS)
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/ship/lcs.htm
New generation hi-speed surface combatant for coastal operations.
upto 60 ships are planned.

LHX
http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/ship/lhx.htm
New generation amphbious assault ships,not much is known about it.
I though they would carry Marine version of JSF

CGX
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/ship/cg-21.htm
New generation Cruisers would have new Air-defence missiles as well as RADAR.

Virginia class Attack submarines
http://www.naval-technology.com/projects/nssn/
Intended to be very queit sub and advanced than previous subs but cheaper.Accomodated to carry SEAL teams
About 30 ships planned to built.

Sea Shadow
http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/ship/sea_shadow.htm
Test craft developed by ARPA.Its purpose is to explore a variety of new technologies for surface ships, including ship control, structures, automation for reduced manning, seakeeping and signature control.

 

[gf0012-aust]

Sea Shadow
http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/ship/sea_shadow.htm
Test craft developed by ARPA.Its purpose is to explore a variety of new technologies for surface ships, including ship control, structures, automation for reduced manning, seakeeping and signature control.

I'm guessing that you have copied this from Global Security??

Actually it's DARPA. Not ARPA. Both (I'm assuming that FAS have the same error) of the above have not rectified a mistake they made in their editorials from some years back.

The official Navy data refers to DARPA, NAVSEA, and Naval Sea Systems Command.

also refer to:

http://www.news.navy.mil/search/display.asp?story_id=11028

http://www.atl.external.lmco.com/overview/programs/IS/SeaShadow.html

http://www.dcmilitary.com/navy/seaservices/9_01/national_news/26900-1.html

Welcome to the dangers of quoting from the internet. The original mistake in quotation was made circa 1999, and has unfortunately not been corrected by a number of referring sources.

What you've found out is how many people quote incorrect info and present it as their own facts.

 

[armage]

Does the Sea Shadow carry weapons or is it just a testbed for new tech.?

 

[gf0012-aust]

Does the Sea Shadow carry weapons or is it just a testbed for new tech.?

It's a test bed for DDX(21) and some of the Aegis systems. No other data is available on weaps fit outs. (if any)

 

[Pathfinder-X]

Does the Sea Shadow carry weapons or is it just a testbed for new tech.?

It's a test bed for Advanced Research Project Agency, U.S navy and Lockheed Martin. The purpose of the vessel is to test ship controls, structures and signature control. If my memory serves me right, the program has been cancelled or postoned.

 

[gf0012-aust]

Does the Sea Shadow carry weapons or is it just a testbed for new tech.?

It's a test bed for Advanced Research Project Agency, U.S navy and Lockheed Martin. The purpose of the vessel is to test ship controls, structures and signature control. If my memory serves me right, the program has been cancelled or postoned.

Nope refer to my above. It's DARPA not ARPA. The press releases as used by some sources (like Global Security) were incorrectly transcribed. The actual stakeholders I have detailed above.

The vessel is back in service as a testbed for FORCENET testing.

 

[redsoulja]

is america capable of launchign a d-day liek invasion on countries wioht moderate military capabilities? gf do u think they can
if so outlien the specific platforms they would use

 

[ajay_ijn]

Actually it's DARPA. Not ARPA. Both (I'm assuming that FAS have the same error) of the above have not rectified a mistake they made in their editorials from some years back.

Ya it is DARPA ,I think the program of Land warrior was developed by DARPA right?

DARPA=Defence Advanced Research projects Agency

But i was confident about websites like FAS that they will not make any mistakes.

 

[gf0012-aust]

I'd probably phrase it a different way.

There are only two militaries that have the logistical capability to conduct expeditionary warfare at a theatre level - the US and the UK. Other nations may be able to deploy forces at an expeditionary battle level (eg France, Russia), but they don't have the depth of capability - and/or the logistic persistence.

The US is the only nation that is geared to be able to fight two theatre events concurrently without a significant force diminishing effect.

The numbers are easier to convey:

Largest navy in the world
Largest logistic footprint at an aviation level
Largest naval logistics fleet in the world
12 Carrier Strike Forces - each carrier carries an air wing that is bigger than most countries air forces
10 Expeditionary strike Groups - each capital ship is usually bigger and/or more capable than the lead ships of 95% of the worlds navies
An SSGN fleet that is divided into Pacific and Atlantic Oceans - hence a stand off capability to deliver 184 TLAMs (and n-tipped if necessary) per ship on any target within a 1200km range
They have been the only nation to actually have experience and conduct war from space based assets that are integrated into the C4i grid. (a considerable amount of the strike capability used in the Iraq War was done using space managed assets)
A clear capacity to actually have 24/7/365 satellite surveillance on any nation - and the capacity to redirect space based assets to increase that coverage.


There are numerous other reasons - but you get the picture.

 

[redsoulja]

so gary most nations dont possess what is required to withstand an american 'theatre of war' (simply invasion)
yet do some nations possess the ability to withstand an american 'theatre of war' in any simple conventional standoff or unconventional standoff??

do u agree with the the statement that america does not possess the capabilty to invade a country like china regardless of chinese nuke capabilty in pure conventional terms

 

[gf0012-aust]

so gary most nations dont possess what is required to withstand an american 'theatre of war' (simply invasion)
yet do some nations possess the ability to withstand an american 'theatre of war' in any simple conventional standoff or unconventional standoff??

Some do, but not many - the issue is the degree of committment that the US makes - we have yet to see the US prosecute war in an absolute term - even Iraq was a sideshow. They haven't really committed to a full war since WW2

do u agree with the the statement that america does not possess the capabilty to invade a country like china regardless of chinese nuke capabilty in pure conventional terms

It gets down to what the tactical objective is. If you want to sieze and hold, then you need to commit land forces - no nation would want to contemplate trying to take China at a land level - it would be military and tactical suicide.

OTOH, you don't need to land soldiers to achieve a tactical objective.
Trying to take China by land forces is one of those military outcomes that is borderline unachievable.

it would rate with:

invading russia
fighting Israel
invading the US
and invading Canada or Australia (logistical nightmares for any invading force) as borderline tactical suicide.


addendum: it would be a good idea to either stay on topic or create a new thread.

 

[ajay_ijn]

What is the idea behind having Advanced Gun System of 100miles for the DDX destroyer?
For anit-ship or coastal attack?

 

[Aegis]

The pictures of the ship looks ugly!

 

[rajupaki]

I have seen this type of ship in a movie called "Street Fighter".

 

[redsoulja]

what are u gusy talking about
the ship looks sick and amazing
imagine a dozen of those with the other future USN projetcs near the coast of some country
that country will instantly lose the psychological war right there
they look really nice
well thats my taste

 

[armage]

: So hideous that it’ll scare the country being attacked away.

 

[gf0012-aust]

Let's all remember that one-liners will be deleted. Any from this point on that do not add any value to the topic will be at risk of deletion.

 

[mysterious]

And that automitally means 'first strike', if I may just remind us all Gary.

Admin: Ditto re one liners!

 

[ajay_ijn]

What is the idea behind having Gun(Advanced Gun System) which can fire at the range of 100miles?
DDX destroyers are to be Armed with this kind of gun.

May be it is for Anti-ship instead of using harpoon missile.

I expect that DDX will have following Armament

Tomahawk(Latest version developed)
SM-3 (Also has ABM capability)
ESSM (Evolved sea sparrow missile)
Instead of phalnx they might be armed with a new gun.

 

[ajay_ijn]

What is the idea behind having Gun(Advanced Gun System) which can fire at the range of 100miles?
DDX destroyers are to be Armed with this kind of gun.

May be it is for Anti-ship instead of using harpoon missile.

I expect that DDX will have following Armament

Tomahawk(Latest version developed)
SM-3 (Also has ABM capability)
ESSM (Evolved sea sparrow missile)
Instead of phalnx they might be armed with a new gun.

I found the answer the gun is for Land Attack purpose
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/ship/dd-x.htm

The Navy plans the DD(X) to be a multi-mission destroyer featuring a composite deckhouse and a Wave-Piercing Tumblehome Hull displacing about 14,000 tons. Optimized for the land-attack mission, it will have two Advanced Gun Systems (AGSs) with a combined magazine capacity of approximately 750 rounds of long-range land attack and conventional munitions. Each AGS will consist of a single-barrel 155mm gun supplied from an automated magazine. An Advanced Vertical Launch System (AVLS) with 80 cells will host Tomahawk Land Attack Missiles, Standard Missiles (SM2-MR) for local air defense, Evolved Seasparrow Missiles for engagement of both airborne and seaborne threats, and Vertical Launch Anti-Submarine Rockets for engagement of submarine threats. Two 40mm Close-In Gun Systems will enhance self-defense against air and surface threats.

It carrier less no. of VLS cells than arleigh burke class destroyers,I thought they would be armed with SM-3 but they will have SM-2.
But it has 2 Guns of 155mm and 750 rounds with a range of 100miles.