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Sea Toby

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Me, I have a view missiles or machines will replace the air force, navy, and army as we think of them. Possibly replacing men. Not quite Terminator status, but that isn't so unreal any longer.

For example, in my future, if you want to wage war on Iraq, send missiles to level the country and kill almost everyone. No more need to bother to occupy a country.
 
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Dr Freud

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Sea Toby said:
For example, in my future, if you want to wage war on Iraq, send missiles to level the country and kill almost everyone. No more need to bother to occupy a country.
And if your objective is to make Iraq an ally that you can buy oil from ?
 

Sea Toby

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The price of oil has gotten so high, and will get much, much higher, there is becoming a realization in America for a push to develop ethanol QUICKY. I dare say America is willing to spend ten percent more in taxes across the board than to continue to rely on expensive sources for oil. A future policy is being developed in America to develop alternative sources of fuel, and not buying any more oil from foreign sources, i.e., energy independence. I have heard to let the oil producing nations drown in their own oil. In ten or so years, the cry to intervene in the Persian Gulf or Venezuela for cheap oil will be non-existant. OPEC has let the price rise too much, a new energy policy is coming. Otherwise, America ceases to be a major power.

When oil was cheap we were willing to buy oil from abroad. Unfortunately, oil is no longer cheap. Why pay $140 a barrel, when we can produce ethanol for less? It would not surprise me that our next president, who isn't an oil man, will cry for a ten year goal, maybe less, for complete energy independence from oil. In the last five years the price of oil has more than tripled. Bye, bye oil.
 
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ltb

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sorry about that... well my feelings on SP21 are mixed... if you have the funding for global domination of the worlds sea lanes then why not? seapower is essentially the route to global domination... setting up for a pax america... but you cant be a great land power and a great seapower, and if you look at current threats maybe a cheaper form of power projection is required? or is this really adressing current world treands? i stuggle to sea how a strike carrier force eliminates terrorist activities
 

Sea Toby

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The reasons why we have a navy is much, much more than fighting terrorism. The navy wishes to have 12 carriers because of a rotation policy of three. When one carrier is deployed abroad, one carrier just came back from a deployment, and another carrier is preparing for a deployment replacing the current deployed carrier.

And since the US navy likes to operate their carriers in two, two deployed in the Pacific and two deployed in the Atlantic, so they can operate 24-7 every day and night. While the carriers can operate at night with a reduced night watches, there is only one flight deck crew aboard the carriers. They need to sleep sometime.

Homeporting one carrier in Japan has allowed the US Navy to drop one carrier, and since one of the carriers is being nuclear refueled at any given time, there are currently 11 carriers and 10 carrier air groups.

There is a reason why our navy is so large. There is a reason why there is a two ocean navy.
 

windscorpion

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When oil was cheap we were willing to buy oil from abroad. Unfortunately, oil is no longer cheap. Why pay $140 a barrel, when we can produce ethanol for less? It would not surprise me that our next president, who isn't an oil man, will cry for a ten year goal, maybe less, for complete energy independence from oil. In the last five years the price of oil has more than tripled. Bye, bye oil.
Yeah but as the US consumes so much of the black stuff if they stopped importing it then there would be a lot more oil available on the market and prices would fall. What if the US was then paying more for it's energy than competitors. Mind you go for it, my Skoda would be a lot cheaper to fill up then. :p:
 

Sea Toby

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I'm sure if the Congress would allow the oil industry to drill on the west coast, east coast, and off the Florida Gulf coast, along with more drilling in Alaska we could cut much of our imports. Just about every large refinery in America has expanded to refine more oil,except for the huge refinery in Gary, Indiana, where the environmentalists of Wisconsin, Illinois, and Michigan won a court case not to expand....... We have a great (sic) energy policy. The environmentalists stopped a windmill farm off the New England coast (sic).

During the 1990s and up to last year in the 2000s, many Americans were still buying SUVs and pickups that didn't get 20 MPG highway. Many like large cars because they are more comfortable and think they are safer in a crash. Never mind the idea if they bought 30 MPG cars highway or more, there would be a glut of oil in America and the prices would be much cheaper.

Supply and demand. Plus market speculation when supplies are tight we see the spike in prices. During the 1980s and early 1990s new homes averaged less than 2,000 square feet in size, a majority less than 1500 square feet. Today the average size of a new home in America is more than 3,000 square feet. Isn't this a great way to conserve energy (sic)? Heating homes and air conditioning homes consume as much energy as our stupid driving habits. There is a reason why home prices have fallen recently, and why no one can sell their gas giuzzlers, no one can afford to out gas in them or buy the energy to heat or cool their huge homes.
 
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