February lastest New Process of JF-17

myskykk

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February lastest Process of JF-17

T:p: he JF-17 type NO.4 will be tested in two mothes


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February 24, 2006 Friday Muharram 25, 1427
President describes China visit 'very important', to boost multi-faceted ties Feb 24 (APP): President General Pervez Musharraf Thursday described his visit to China as very important and said his 'substantive and positive' interaction with the Chinese leadership would boost ties in political, economic and defence fields. "The visit is very important in terms of timings and substance in the wake of changing strategic situation in the world," he told reporters while flying back home after a five-day state visit to China. Musharraf said he had substantive interaction with the Chinese leadership that covered all areas including political, economic, diplomatic, defence, continuing cooperation in the peaceful use of nuclear energy, and regional and international issues. "There was a complete understanding on all issues we discussed and there has been a very positive response," he said while referring to his one-on-one meeting with President Hu Jintao. Responding to a question, the President said that Pakistan and China had always been collaborating in the defence field. "Defence relations have been the bedrock of Sino-Pak relations." China, he added, had been giving a lot of transfer of technology "because of which collaboration has been going on for decades". The President said the Chinese government also showed their hi-tech F-10 that is comparable with any modern aircraft. 'We are very favourably disposed toward this aircraft," he added. Answering another question he said Chinese investors have shown interest in various sectors including automobile, energy, textile etc. adding that in the automobile sector, several world renowned companies were heading to Pakistan in a big way. Referring to the cartoon controversy the President rejected the excuse of freedom of press for the publication of these blasphemous images which, he added, would encourage notion of clash of civilizations. "It has taken the freedom of press to its worst limit," he added. About the unresolved political disputes including Palestine and Kashmir, he said these were the root cause of extremism and terrorism and must be addressed. (Posted @ 10:10 PST)
from the daily dawn news update section. It is likely that this is the second 4th gen fighter which has been alluded to many times by the air chief. F-16s seem to be definite....the deal was about to be notified to the Congress before the earthquake struck . J-10 (or should we start calling it F-10 now) was there at that time also....it was not the case that it was not available then but is available now. It is public knowledge that PAF evaluated this aircraft sometime back. The interesting part is going to be the engine, avionics and weapons.
 
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chrisrobsoar

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Interesting.

The displays are obviously from so sort of mock-up. In the background of one of the pictures a chair is visiable.

I was suprised that in the close-up of the heads-up display the switches were labled in English.
 

crobato

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The displays are from a prototype simulator for the FC-1. If you have seen the entire TV video clip, there is a whole bunch of engineers in white coats all around it.
 

chrisrobsoar

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I think I have just answered my own question.

FC-1 (Fighter China-1) Xiaolong/ Joint Fighter-17 (JF-17) Thunder. A joint venture between Chengdu Aircraft Industry Corporation (CAC) and Pakistani Aeronautical Complex (PAC) has been developed for export market.

http://www.sinodefence.com/airforce/fighter/fc1.asp

The FC-1 mock-up is used to sell the aircraft to other countries; hence the equipment is labelled in English.
 

SABRE

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chrisrobsoar said:
The FC-1 mock-up is used to sell the aircraft to other countries; hence the equipment is labelled in English.
Also the aircraft is being developed with Pakistanis. Pakistani engineers and pilots cant read or speek 'Chinese', at least not all of them.
 

myskykk

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colvin123 said:
Pakistan bought F-16 years ago , I think they use Englishi much easier than use Chinese .


it's supported any other language from database.
The GPS map as you saw could be translate into chinese or english.
It's just software problem!
 

colvin123

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you mean just like windows xp , when install it , you just select a language, the microsoft does not make different version for every language?
maybe you are rihgt. but , as a software, English are much better than Chinese.you see ,most software are written by English .
 

ajaybhutani

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colvin123 said:
you mean just like windows xp , when install it , you just select a language, the microsoft does not make different version for every language?
maybe you are rihgt. but , as a software, English are much better than Chinese.you see ,most software are written by English .
did u really mean " by English" or "in English" ..
 

chrisrobsoar

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myskykk said:
it's supported any other language from database.
The GPS map as you saw could be translate into chinese or english.
It's just software problem!
Yes this is OK for the “Glass Cockpit” instruments, but the problems start with the older back up instruments, levers and switches. Most of the labels are actually illuminated engraved panels. To change the language requires hardware changes. If the ability to display multiple languages was a requirement when the equipment was designed then such changes are not too difficult to accommodate. If however, this requirement was an after thought, the necessary changes can be very difficult to retrofit.

There are other considerations in particular the units used in each country.

For example: -

Horizontal Velocity: Knots (Nautical Miles per hour), Miles per Hour, Kilometres per Hour [Mach Number is standard]

Vertical Velocity: Feet/Minute, Meters/Second, Knots

Distance: Nautical Miles, Statute Miles, Kilometres

Altitude: Feet, Meters

Pressure: hPa, Millibar, inHg (inches of Mercury)

Sometimes it is easier to teach the crews to learn the language of the aircraft manufacturer. (I have flown several aircraft with mixed language instrumentation and found that when things are going well pilots can cope, when the going gets tough problems can occur).

In this case because the mock-up has English lab ling suggests that requirement for multiple languages has been considered from the start and that the aircraft is aimed at the export market.
 

ajaybhutani

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colvin123 said:
I think by Englishi means by a Englishi man , in Englishi means use this language, is that right?
thats right.. just wanted to be clear as what u actually intended to say.. as "by English" is quite a debatable statement.. :D while "in english" is a fact.
regards
Ajay
 

myskykk

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colvin123 said:
sorry ,that because of my poor English, I really don't know the difference.

Let's compar to Inidan LCA

To be carfully of the third one . CRT not color, not LCD !
 
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colvin123

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Compare LCA with FC-1 , we'll found LCA use 6 LCD while FC-1 use 3.
since we call this instrument as large screen multifunctional LCD, use many LCD means one LCD can only integrate limited functions.The size of LCD in FC-1 are much bigger than LCA's , so I think FC-1's cockpit is advanced than LCA, do you agree with me ?
 

hovercraft

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jf-17 cockpit is looking like gripen even much better then euro fighter, and euro fighter's cockpit is too better then lca.
 
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